installed my ams copy intercooler and ebay pipes today
I must be missing something with this heatsoak thing? What is different about the cores which causes one to give up heat faster than the other?
I hate using wikipedia as a source because ppl just assume you googled your answer but in this case it's easier than figuring out a way to write the formula for heat transfer out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient
someone please tell me which part the brand names beat out the ebay units and you'll probably convince me to spend extra money on them.
I hate using wikipedia as a source because ppl just assume you googled your answer but in this case it's easier than figuring out a way to write the formula for heat transfer out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient
someone please tell me which part the brand names beat out the ebay units and you'll probably convince me to spend extra money on them.
I must be missing something with this heatsoak thing? What is different about the cores which causes one to give up heat faster than the other?
I hate using wikipedia as a source because ppl just assume you googled your answer but in this case it's easier than figuring out a way to write the formula for heat transfer out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient
someone please tell me which part the brand names beat out the ebay units and you'll probably convince me to spend extra money on them.
I hate using wikipedia as a source because ppl just assume you googled your answer but in this case it's easier than figuring out a way to write the formula for heat transfer out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient
someone please tell me which part the brand names beat out the ebay units and you'll probably convince me to spend extra money on them.
looks pretty cheap and crapy under the hood IMO.
Where's the "This Thread is Useless Without Factual Information" smiley?
Seriously, this thread has gone off topic and back on a thousand times.
So, here's the tally so far:
We should support our local vendors that take the time to RnD the parts they make.
Some of the "Ebay" items are direct "rip-offs" of the RnD'd items.
Some of the "rip-offs" work without issue.
Some of the "rip-offs" do not work.
Which category does the Ebay FMIC fall into?
This thread is entertaining and all, but it has NO factual information to support either of the arguments regarding the performance of the Ebay fmic.
Does the Ebay fmic rob you of power over the stocker?
Does it perform better than the stock fmic?
Does it perform just as well as the <insert name-brand here> fmic?
What numbers are out there that support your statements?
"The welds look like crap, and the end tanks look horrible." "I once had a friend that shopped on ebay, he purchased an item that was listed right below this fmic and it made his car blow up/run 800,000,000 whp." WTF kind of argument is that?
FFS, I just read through 9 pages of people talking out their *** to come to the end with no numbers or solid evidence either way.
Wow ... just ... wow.
Seriously, this thread has gone off topic and back on a thousand times.
So, here's the tally so far:
We should support our local vendors that take the time to RnD the parts they make.
Some of the "Ebay" items are direct "rip-offs" of the RnD'd items.
Some of the "rip-offs" work without issue.
Some of the "rip-offs" do not work.
Which category does the Ebay FMIC fall into?
This thread is entertaining and all, but it has NO factual information to support either of the arguments regarding the performance of the Ebay fmic.
Does the Ebay fmic rob you of power over the stocker?
Does it perform better than the stock fmic?
Does it perform just as well as the <insert name-brand here> fmic?
What numbers are out there that support your statements?
"The welds look like crap, and the end tanks look horrible." "I once had a friend that shopped on ebay, he purchased an item that was listed right below this fmic and it made his car blow up/run 800,000,000 whp." WTF kind of argument is that?
FFS, I just read through 9 pages of people talking out their *** to come to the end with no numbers or solid evidence either way.
Wow ... just ... wow.
I have an Ebay intercooler. One of the newer 17 bar design. Same dimensions as the AMS intercooler. The finish and welds looked as good as any other professional welded part I have.
Just installing the IC, the car definitely felt stronger. No real boost drop, car pulled nice and consistent to redline. As for the fit, other than having the mount an aluminum bar to the top of the IC, it fit great.
Took it to get dyno tuned. Run after run the car ran strong and the HP and TQ were consistent. The stock IC when I previously dynoed didn't fair so well. Once the car got to temperature, the power started to drop.
Now the real test will be coming in the spring when the racing season starts.
Now this is my experience. There are a couple different designed ICs out on Ebay so I can't speak for any of those. These are my observations with my specific intercooler.
With that being said, something about this thread. Not everyone has a big bankroll to spend on parts. Most of my parts are either used (from EvoM members) or from Ebay (Like my IC and catback). So I am trying to get the best bang for the buck. I have nothing against vendors like BR, AMS, etc. I have parts and services from both, and would love to have the budget to buy specific parts each of these vendors. I don't have the money to spend.
Just installing the IC, the car definitely felt stronger. No real boost drop, car pulled nice and consistent to redline. As for the fit, other than having the mount an aluminum bar to the top of the IC, it fit great.
Took it to get dyno tuned. Run after run the car ran strong and the HP and TQ were consistent. The stock IC when I previously dynoed didn't fair so well. Once the car got to temperature, the power started to drop.
Now the real test will be coming in the spring when the racing season starts.
Now this is my experience. There are a couple different designed ICs out on Ebay so I can't speak for any of those. These are my observations with my specific intercooler.
With that being said, something about this thread. Not everyone has a big bankroll to spend on parts. Most of my parts are either used (from EvoM members) or from Ebay (Like my IC and catback). So I am trying to get the best bang for the buck. I have nothing against vendors like BR, AMS, etc. I have parts and services from both, and would love to have the budget to buy specific parts each of these vendors. I don't have the money to spend.
Can you link to, or tell us which IC you purchased? Was in the JDM or XS?
You're exactly right, and i think it is completely BS that i asked a logical good on-topic question and didn't get it answered in this entire thread. Instead the entire thread went off topic, and everyones attention was focused on bickering about nothingness.
This was what i was wondering, can somebody provide any information on the IC pipes? Esspecially the UICP.
Can you link to, or tell us which IC you purchased? Was in the JDM or XS?
This was what i was wondering, can somebody provide any information on the IC pipes? Esspecially the UICP.
Can you link to, or tell us which IC you purchased? Was in the JDM or XS?
Guys, why does everyone keep bashing the OP?
He bought what HE wanted with HIS Money. Just drop the fighting, Shesh.
If he wants to buy Ebay parts, thats his choice, Not yours.
He bought what HE wanted with HIS Money. Just drop the fighting, Shesh.
If he wants to buy Ebay parts, thats his choice, Not yours.
i'm not insinuating that all IC with cast end tanks are going to have a heat soak problems. i'm just saying that if the XSP IC does have a heat soak problem, then one of the cause could be because the end tanks are very thick cast aluminum. an object with more mass is going to retain more heat, that's just a natural law of physics. and we know that the XSP IC is very heavy, about 10+ lbs heavier than stock. i was considering making a custom end tanks for mine when i first got it but i was too lazy. i’ll probably still give it a try this summer. if anything, it’ll at least drop some weight.