Al i agree with you and i ve said it many times. The dyno is a tool and nothing else...

My objection and thats why i keep discussing numbers is just because there are people who believe (and i even heard it with my own ears) and claim that The Shop and Dynoflash "cook" the numbers to make customers happy... and obviously IT IS NOT TRUE... if a car is making power you cannot hide it and if a car doesn't make power you cannot hide it either, unless you were driving before a 1.4 automatic honda civic...

That's very aggrevating to me, as i have seen with my own eyes how The Shop and Dynoflash work... and for me it is very satisfying and professional...

Talking s@$t about shops and people just because they heard it from somewhere its stupid to say at least!!! plus it insults me, as the way they put it makes me look completely newbie and amateur...

Anyway...

Again, comparing dynos cannot be done. Comparing car on the same dyno, the same day, with the same correction factor can be done...

Big Al see you Saturday!!!

 

The AWD dyno that i use in town is a dynodynamics dyno and it is known as "the heartbreaker" in town.

with all my mods, i put down 308whp and 300wtq on it.

AMS TBE with test pipe
Maxford exhaust manifold
helix o2 housing
LPI upper and lower IC piping
GSC 272/272 cams (stock gears)
walbro fuel pump
FORGE bov
FORGE MBC @ 24 psi
GRE FMIC

that's it as far as power mods.

those things read LOW

 

Why did you repeat this post? None of it makes sense. You aren't listening to what we're saying.

There is no "real" number.

No, you cannot say that 270whp on a DD is 320whp on a Dynojet.

Please read our explanations and try to understand. The point of a dyno is not to get numbers - it's to see gains.

 

I'm not saying anything about individual Shops. I want to know why every DynoJet whp # is like 50 whp more than DynoDynamics w/ THE SAME EXACT MODS ??? Lets use the TBE, MBC, and Flash mod as an example. Everyone on DynoDynamics gets 270whp, and DynoJet gets 320whp. Something is wrong here. I think it's fair to say that DynoJet reads very high and doesn't show real whp. DynoDynamics on the other hand shows real whp #'s.

 

Again...

You cannot compare these two #s.

Is IMPOSSIBLE!!!

You can say that DDs show lower than the DJs but how much exactly there is no way you can tell...

Even DDs netween them show different #s. Other #s you will see on a DD at 6000ft above sea level and other #s you will see on a DD at 500ft above sea level.

What you can compare is two cars on the same dyno on the same day, with the same correction factors. These are comparable numbers, others are not...

To chew it for you...

Two cars, same day, same dyno, same correction factor...One is stock and one has TBE, mbc, intake, tune...

The stock shows 240whp...
The modded shows 300whp...

Result: the mods work!!!!

Again...

Two cars, same day, same dyno, same correction factor...one has TBE, mbc, intake, tune...the other one has EXACTLY the same things plus cams...

the no cams shows 300whp
the cammed shoes 320whp

Result: GET CAMS.....!!!

I am sorry but i cannot make it clearer than that!!!

 

Return your car to the dealership.

 

You're hopeless...

Sell the Evo, and buy a Civic.

 

all dynos are different, period.

 

Unbelievable...

 

Your telling me you don't see the everyday common 50whp difference between the two Dynos with the same exact mods? I see it all over this site everywhere, do a search. DynoJet reads much higher everyday period. And Warrtalon, if a stock Evo IX puts down 220whp how do you get 320-330whp from a TBE, MBC, and a Flash ???? That's right....It's on DynoJet. DynoJet #'s are off/inflated all over this site. I'm gonna stick with DynoDynamics.

 

I'm trying to make 320whp. I'm seriously thinking about buying the Buschur package. 320whp with basic mods is incredible. But I might get tuned on a DynoDynamics so I want to know what to expect on THAT Dyno. I see that you claim 320whp w/ TBE, MBC, and a Flash on DynoJet. From searching around this site it seems that the DynoDynamics whp#'s are gonna be around 270whp w/ the same mods. This is why I'm asking for your opinions. DynoDynamics whp #'s seems more realistic over the stock Evo IX 220whp.

 

Good Lord, we KNOW they read differently. We're telling you that IT DOESN'T MATTER. One isn't more accurate than the other. All that matters is the gains!!! Use the same one before and after so that you know what you gained. Sheesh...

 

It seems that for Greek men Jimmy and Nick are very common names


anyhow, the true measure of "power" is the trap speeds a car will pull in the 1/4 mile

 

I know that the gain is obviously the most important factor. The Buschur 320whp package is incredible. That's 100whp over stock! This is why I was making sure DynoJet #'s are for real and not inflated. 100whp gain for just TBE, MBC, and a flash just seemed unrealistic to me. I was just making sure with you guys before making any purchase. I still really doubt I'm gonna get 100whp with that stuff. 270whp is what I see on DynoDynamics with those same mods which is a 50whp gain and that seems realistic to me. Thanks for everyone's input and verbal bashings.

 

Alright dude, not all Evo's put down 220 whp stock; and whoever told you that is confused.

The entire point here is that on a Dyno Jet a stock evo will put down 260 whp and will make 330 whp with the stage 1 mods, that equals 70 whp; now on your stupid F'in DynoDynamics a stock Evo will make 220 stock and should put down 290 whp (even MD's make 300 whp with those mods). WHICH EQUALS A 70 WHP GAIN EITHER WAY!!! THAT's the point!

Nobody wanted to write out the whole scenario for you so you would understand, because it is a huge inconvenience; BUT THERE YA GO.

And your stupid DynoDynamics isn't a more accurate dyno, because it doesn't make sense for a car to make under 300 whp and run high 11's in the 1/4. So THAT is why people use DynoJet numbers more often; because it makes a lot more sense that a car runs a high 11 with 330 whp... (I don't spend enough time in the drag forum to translate to trap speeds.)