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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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whatever you say bro...
Hop on a DynoDynamics and then tell me who's right.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
A dyno is a tuning aide - nothing more nothiong less

What is relevant is

That the load is repeatable and that the machine has good resolution to quantify gains and losses

A dyno jet is around 60 - 70 K

Dyno Dynamics is just about double that

To me the power figures the machine spits out are meaningless - (although I understand that many customers are interested in them)

The main use of a dyno is to properly tune a car in a controlled envirnment
the DD is a way more applicable tunign tool that the DJ.

but hey, its just an opinion.

I actually was in the process of acquiring the DD, when we went with a mustang... it fit our overall picture better.

but i never even considered a dynojet... and a dynapack, what a pain.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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here it goes again the never ending dyno debate there's no 100% acurate dyno and alot of stock cars put down different numbers depending on the tolerances inside the engine and outside conditions. Both affect hp and tq greatly
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Dyno numbers are just numbers people, get your cars tuned go out to the track and post up some time slips......

Traps are a good indicator of the power the car is making

low e/ts are a combined indicator of driver skill and a bit of the cars power too
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
YES A STOCK 2003 EVO!!!

Not the 2006... According to Mitsubishi as stated the IX puts down 255whp...which looks like a dynojet figure... READ MORE CAREFULLY...

you are hopeless bro...
The IX only has 10 more Hp than the VIII, not whp. Mitsu tested the VIII at 220whp. The IX was tested on a Dynometer, a DynoJet equivalent. You think if the VIII put down 276whp and the IX puts down 286 that there whould be a 35whp difference ???
No way dude.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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here it goes again the never ending dyno debate there's no 100% acurate dyno and alot of stock cars put down different numbers depending on the tolerances inside the engine and outside conditions. Both affect hp and tq greatly
Agreed, but Dynodynamics is pretty much spot on from my personal experience.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich EVO MR SE
Hop on a DynoDynamics and then tell me who's right.
Mate, what are you smoking...??????????

All of my dynos except one are on a DD...

watch and learn... (1.1 correction all of them)

intake, mbc, fp, dp, hfc, catback, e-flash, 22psi, 93 octane


as before plus cossie cams, head studs, custom dynoflash, leaking greddy type-rs bov, same gas, sane boost


as before plus txs fmic, megan o2 housing, forge wastegate actuator, stock bov, 23psi boost, 6-8 knocksums, kept pulling timing...


Saturday adstusted actuator, nisei piping kit, randomtech metalic substrate high flow cat (rated at 617cfm!), custom retune...


PERSONALLY this is how i use the dyno...

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by evo542
here it goes again the never ending dyno debate there's no 100% acurate dyno and alot of stock cars put down different numbers depending on the tolerances inside the engine and outside conditions. Both affect hp and tq greatly
Agreed.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
Dyno numbers are just numbers people, get your cars tuned go out to the track and post up some time slips......

Traps are a good indicator of the power the car is making

low e/ts are a combined indicator of driver skill and a bit of the cars power too

++1

Use the dyno to see what kind of gains you have made from your mods. The proof is on the tracks!! (unless you can't drive.)
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
Mate, what are you smoking...??????????

All of my dynos except one are on a DD...

watch and learn... (1.1 correction all of them)

intake, mbc, fp, dp, hfc, catback, e-flash, 22psi, 93 octane


as before plus cossie cams, head studs, custom dynoflash, leaking greddy type-rs bov, same gas, sane boost


as before plus txs fmic, megan o2 housing, forge wastegate actuator, stock bov, 23psi boost, 6-8 knocksums, kept pulling timing...


Saturday adstusted actuator, nisei piping kit, randomtech metalic substrate high flow cat (rated at 617cfm!), custom retune...


PERSONALLY this is how i use the dyno...

I'm saying DynoDynamics is more accurate, what does this show me ??? That it's accurate ??? That's my point. I'm on your side bro.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
Dyno numbers are just numbers people, get your cars tuned go out to the track and post up some time slips......

Traps are a good indicator of the power the car is making

low e/ts are a combined indicator of driver skill and a bit of the cars power too
here we go with the "you must run this in the quarter at this speed to be making this power" debate

hee he...

just giving u a hard time...

we arent a drag based company, so of course i dont think like that.... that's not to say, i dont like to drag lol

anyway...

like the sti vs evo threads.... to each their own...

cb
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich EVO MR SE
So can we all agree that DynoDynamics is spot on with the Dyno Mitsubishi themselves use. Thanks everyone for all the input, and thanks Robevo Rs for answering my question.
I'm not even sure I want to reply in this thread...

But here goes, DynoDynamics is not spot on, Dynojet is not spot on, Mustang dyno is not spot on.

NO DYNO IS SPOT ON..

Car makers use engine dyno's, not chassis dyno's. They publish numbers by the amount of power at the crank.

Chassis dyno's measure the power at the wheels. There is always going to be a difference, and you could have the exact same dyno's, run the exact same car on both of them and get a completely different number.

Dyno's are tuning tools, they are used to give a tuner a controlled, repeatable environment in which to tune. That's it, nothing more.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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As my attorney cousing would say...

"I rest my case..."

Over and out...
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy4g63
I'm not even sure I want to reply in this thread...

But here goes, DynoDynamics is not spot on, Dynojet is not spot on, Mustang dyno is not spot on.

NO DYNO IS SPOT ON..

Car makers use engine dyno's, not chassis dyno's. They publish numbers by the amount of power at the crank.

Chassis dyno's measure the power at the wheels. There is always going to be a difference, and you could have the exact same dyno's, run the exact same car on both of them and get a completely different number.

Dyno's are tuning tools, they are used to give a tuner a controlled, repeatable environment in which to tune. That's it, nothing more.
Agreed. Someone delete this thread.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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I'm done asking anything about whp #'s, this **** is making me ill. I could care less, I just wanted to know why DynoJet reads so high and why DynoDynamics is more accurate. Please Just delete this thread. I could care less about any of this **** anymore.
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