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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Unhappy Starting to get upset with the evo..

Well heres the deal (and long story), I bought the car about a year n a few months ago stock with like 6 miles.. about a month later i did my few basic upgrades car felt n ran awsome (aside from the shltty hks bov).. And I was happy.. Then I decided to go big turbo (maybe a stupid decision) and run it on pump gas.. So my mods were the following, BR-GT35r, 880cc injec, megan dp/tp, hks catback, br intake, Generic FMIC, stock licp, HKS boost controller (that wasnt hooked up) and thats about it give or take (not including stuff like guages, uper intercooler pipe and mini battery) Later on the HKS bov was replaced with TiAL(going AEM EMS) the nightthe car got tuned i kinda rushed the tuner (bad idea..) there for the car was tuned with almost no timing, and i was running WG spring (23psi spring).. so my car wouldnt boost over 23psi.. and for the longest time i was extremly upset with the power my car was making.. (especially considering i never went back to get the tune fixed).. My trap speeds were extremly low for my mods, even on pump gas.. trap time was slower then a stock turbo evo with turbo back and tune.. Over all not happy.


So recently I had a birthday, saved up some money and ordered some new parts.. which include: AEM EMS, AEM Wideband, HKS Ignition, Headstuds, BR Motor mounts, and n AEM meth kit.


About a week ago i took the car to get the following installed: Wideband, ignition,headstuds, motormounts, and a custom made LICP.. At the same time my tuner said that we should install a smaller WG spring so we could lower my boost to about 21-22psi, and ad more timing. So we also did that.. He tuned the car alittle bit to redo the tune that was done before and changed it quite a bit to comensate for lower boost (keep in mind my HKS EVC Is now controlling boost.. no longer the Wastegate spring).

Now, im waiting the funds to install and tune the AEM EMS, and the meth kit.. But these are my feelings, And mainly what i wanted to bring up:

For some reason for a GT35r, I feel like my turbo makes full boost EXTREMLY late.. I mean i know its laggy but now watching videos of other cars.. including cars with 37rs and 40rs.. i feel like my turbos spooling extremly slow (i hit full boost @ about 5000rpm) which is about 21-23 psi. I think there might be something wrong with my car why its boosting so slow? or am i just going nuts?

Also for some reason i keep thinking buschur racing sent me the wrong turbo lol.. I mean constantly everytime i tell someone i have a gt35r, they look at the turbo and tell me "no way". I mean the turbine housing (forgot what its called) is only 3inches, and the hotside is soo small (the .63 i believe).. And the exit of the turbo where the turbo conects with the LICP is only like 2.5 inch.. And when i look at other 35r's there ALOT bigger.. again, am i going crazy? or is there a possability i have the wrong turbo? I mean most 35r kits use 4inch intakes because they have 4 inch turbine housings. Is it just because of the kit i bought?


Im soon going to call my tuner and just ask about retuning the car while its still on stock ecu.. when we tuned the car the night i got the few parts installed he was telling me that i should come back so we could mess around with the tune and make sure that its the tune thats making the car so slow, and not something wrong with the car for some reason.


Any suggestions on what to do? When i see the funds im going to do the aem and meth, and tune at 30psi hopefully making around 550whp.


Thanks for reading, sorry if i sound like a n00b.. And of course as always i appologize for any GRAMMAR errors lol.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Post up some pics and we'll tell u
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Post up some pics and we'll tell u
kk will do, but if you check my threads.. i have a thread i just posted about "first car show" that i was in you can go there n cehck out some pics untill i get home and have time to post some more pics
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Just did a pull in my car, 3rd gear, i dont make full boost.. about 24psi.. untill like 6k RPM.. im seriously starting to think theres something wrong

i should be at full boost at like 5k

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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arg bump.. 1 reply 64 views!

plz also read my comment above
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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On a stock motor a 35R will not spool until at least 5500 assuming your running a decent boost level. 35r is not a good DD, pump gas (no alky) turbo. I'm confused why you're complaining you are 18 with a heavily modded Evo and it was your choice to upgrade it. You made some poor choices and it shows. It's hard to have a strong reliable DD 35R car. You didn't know that?
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pure Playaer
Just did a pull in my car, 3rd gear, i dont make full boost.. about 24psi.. untill like 6k RPM.. im seriously starting to think theres something wrong

i should be at full boost at like 5k
Take a log of it and post it. Boost gauges aren't an accurate way of telling where full boost comes in at.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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On a stock motor a 35R will not spool until at least 5500 assuming your running a decent boost level. 35r is not a good DD, pump gas (no alky) turbo. I'm confused why you're complaining you are 18 with a heavily modded Evo and it was your choice to upgrade it. You made some poor choices and it shows. It's hard to have a strong reliable DD 35R car. You didn't know that?
Wtf are you talking about? First off the car daily drives fine.. Its the power im not happy with. I am unhappy with some of the decisions.. i should of waited for the big turbo last but i didnt. Now im making up for it.


Second, im complaining about it not running right. dont post in my thread if your going to just bash me.

and last, 5500rpm? the br kit is supposed to be made for better spool.. ie smaller hotside and cast manifold. and i think its spooling sooo slow.. compaired to other kits with alot bigger hotsides, bigger turbos, and tubular manifolds

I think my turbo kit is messed up for some reason.

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
Take a log of it and post it. Boost gauges aren't an accurate way of telling where full boost comes in at.
I need a tatix cable and evoscan or w/e to do this correct?
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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The 35r just isn't going to shine in its current state on your car. The boost is too low for you to appreciate it. Once you get a chance to run c-16 and 28psi+ then will you feel what it was made for
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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so laggy hm possibly an exhaust leak ? but your boost does seem a little low at this point maybe the meth and some higher boost will solve this
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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The 35r just isn't going to shine in its current state on your car. The boost is too low for you to appreciate it. Once you get a chance to run c-16 and 28psi+ then will you feel what it was made for
Right, i completely understand that.. but one big thing is that, when i look at my turbokit.. the turbo and hotside are sooo small commpaired to other kits that i think for some reason i didnt get the right kit.

Also the spool feels way to late, which is why im thinking theres something wrong
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Wtf are you talking about? First off the car daily drives fine.. Its the power im not happy with. I am unhappy with some of the decisions.. i should of waited for the big turbo last but i didnt. Now im making up for it.


Second, im complaining about it not running right. dont post in my thread if your going to just bash me.

and last, 5500rpm? the br kit is supposed to be made for better spool.. ie smaller hotside and cast manifold. and i think its spooling sooo slow.. compaired to other kits with alot bigger hotsides, bigger turbos, and tubular manifolds

I think my turbo kit is messed up for some reason.
First of all, I'm 18 as well and have IX with a turbo kit on it so don't take it as hating I'm just trying to help you. The first thing I did was try to show you that your turbo spools slow but correctly slow. You were saying your turbo is spooling slower than 37 and 40R's you see in videos. Now most people who go with larger turbo's know that you now need to downshift to accelerate. The only reason spool would be a problem is DD. Racing on the track or on the street you should learn the powerband of your car and always be in it. So, by complaining about spool you are complaining about street driveability. Right? You chose a 35R for crazy top end power so don't expect it going WOT @ 3000 RPM on the street. Drop a gear and let it rip.

If it's not running right at full throttle, it's probably not running great at part throttle either. Maybe with no boost but I get into boost all the time with my DD 50 trim. You say your complaining about it not making power but you say it was mostly your fault. Then you say secondly it's not running right which you say it IS in part 1. Which is it? It runs ok around town but not when you get on it? Either way you say its because you rushed the tuner then never got it fixed. Ok, do that, then report back.

The spool does sound a bit slow but pretty much normal for a poorly tuned 35R on pump gas and a stock motor/head/cams.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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first off, u have way too much money for an 18 year old

secondly i cant help u while im at work with what turbo u are running because photobucket is blocked. re-host them in imageshack and i will take a look.

thridly, u have to realize that the higher the boost level, the longer the lag. now 24 pis hitting at 6k does seems kinda laggy. what kind of power r u making?
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