test pipe vs HFC
Stay with the testpipe, you will definitely feel a decrease in performance with the HFC. If you want to kill some of the drone weld a small resonator or muffler into the testpipe. My friend put a Buschur bullet muffler into his testpipe and it really mellowed things out (3" BR turboback with bullet muffler). His system with the 2 bullets is almost as quiet as my BR turboback with the Magnaflow muffer.
I switched from an HFC to a test pipe, and even without a tune, it helped out very significantly. Also much louder. My dad took my car to run to the parts store this evening and I could hear my car a mile away, literally, a MILE away. Almost obnoxious, but I love it. IN the car it's not that loud.
Besides if you have enough power, you shoot flames when everything is hot . So the heat will move all the way anyway.

From:
SAE Publications Group.
Gas Direct injection Aftertreatment and
Exhaust Aftertreatment Modeling:
"SULEV and "Off-Cycle" Emissions Benefits of
a Vacuum-Insulated Catalytic Converter"
"Ex. gas temperature (°C) 950 - 100 -800
Ex. gas flow rate (g/s) 20 - 130 - 40
Vibration load (g's) 28 - 60 - 30
Vibration frequency (Hz) 50 - 2500 - 100"
"Table 4. Reduction in FTP Emissions of VICC vs
Conventional Converter
Soak Tci HC CO NOx
(h) (°C) (g/mi) (g/mi) (g/mi)
Extended Prep Cycle to Fully Melt PCM
12 315 -72% -75% -70%
18 285 -65% -66% -63%
24 204 -28% -25% -25%
36 106 -9% -7% -9%
Standard (1 UDDS) Prep Cycle
12 212 -30% -27% -27%
18 152 -17% -13% -16%
24 110 -10% -7% -9%
36 61 +4% +6% +5%"
Last edited by Robevo RS; Jan 8, 2008 at 04:45 AM.
There horsepower loss from tp to hfc is definately significant. WHen I first switched from a tp to a hfc the engine still sounded the same and seemed to rev just as fast but it felt gutless and lost a huge chunk of torque. I switched back to a tp and it pulled like banshee again. As for noise, switching between hfc and tp was negligible probably due to my greddy SP2 exhaust which is very quiet to begin with.
The best solution for those not wanting to run a test pipe is a 100 cell race cat. Here are some recent test results vs. ceramic HFC's.
Here are some recent dyno results from NorCal showing the superiority of the 100 cell cats:
+22whp/+19tq on a Mustang Dyno. Ultimate HFC & MBC vs. 100 cell race cat & ECUboost.
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...2280#msg422280
+21whp/+11tq on a Mustang Dyno. VI$H you-know-who HFC vs. 100 cell race cat and Sun Hyper Force.
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...4330#msg424330
Here are some recent dyno results from NorCal showing the superiority of the 100 cell cats:
+22whp/+19tq on a Mustang Dyno. Ultimate HFC & MBC vs. 100 cell race cat & ECUboost.
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...2280#msg422280
+21whp/+11tq on a Mustang Dyno. VI$H you-know-who HFC vs. 100 cell race cat and Sun Hyper Force.
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...4330#msg424330
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