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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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why doesnt someone call EI and tell them what the deal is? Its TOLL FREE!!

If you do actually call them, let us know whats up
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 03:36 AM
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that was GVR4 and he had his EVO VII shipped to Alabama, i think he still has it and that was how i was planning on gettin mine until i realized im going to need WAY more money for college than i expected so im not getting another car for a long time....but ya, i think its really a scam, or at least a scam for california buyers because EI moved to Florida from Santa Ana and they seem to have been having problems with EVO VII cali buyers.

tribal, RX8 all the way, gear ratio tuned for smooth high speeds and is much much nicer.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 04:53 AM
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Originally posted by ralliart
that was GVR4 and he had his EVO VII shipped to Alabama, i think he still has it and that was how i was planning on gettin mine until i realized im going to need WAY more money for college than i expected so im not getting another car for a long time....but ya, i think its really a scam, or at least a scam for california buyers because EI moved to Florida from Santa Ana and they seem to have been having problems with EVO VII cali buyers.

tribal, RX8 all the way, gear ratio tuned for smooth high speeds and is much much nicer.
The RX8 is a great car but i think it fell a little short compared to some of the other cars out there... It will be around 30k.. 0-60 time is 5.9 seconds and the top speed is 153 i believe... It's a good car and looks nice but I'd probbaly test drive it before i buy it...alto i lvoe the idea of liek 250 hp i belive non turbo wit 1.3 liters...

Mazdaspeed plans to do some good stuff for taht car... so the buyters are getting a good deal with that... I'm thinking about buying the RX8...

It's a great car only thing that really got me dissapointed is there isn't a lot of room in the engine bay compared to its older brother...and it weighs in at 3000 lbs.. which isn't bad but the rx7 was alight lighter... But that's okay cuz reliability wise this thing is gonna kick some ***..
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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Dude... go down to your nearest dealer and by an Evo 8. You get dealer support, and a warranty. Forget EI!
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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I can relate to how you feel about the EVO VII.. I like being different and its really unique compared to the 8... I have an 8 at this time. If I were you, if you REALLY want a VII, Wait it out a bit to see what ultimately happens. Alot of people arrange to import cars as individuals, because you can then register the car as a specialty car... The only problem would be on resale, the new owner may have difficulty registering it. Another option you have is to buy an EVO VII fenders, hood, bumper assembly, bumper hardware, and other misc components.. I'll bet Money that someone is working on importing and reselling those components as a package. The only thing that sucks about that is most people want the VII for the things missing on the USDM E8.. AYC, and ACD...
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Old May 5, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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I just got an email from EI today regarding the buyers waiting on their cars this is what Adam Burdette said:

"-- Clients are getting there cars back here in the next couple of
weeks. We are just now wrapping up.

Adam Burdette
Evolution Imports
www.evolutionimports.com"

What that means exactally? Don't know. Seems as if they're about to be finally legal.



Later,
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Old May 5, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by UoU
I just got an email from EI today regarding the buyers waiting on their cars this is what Adam Burdette said:

"-- Clients are getting there cars back here in the next couple of
weeks. We are just now wrapping up.

Adam Burdette
Evolution Imports
www.evolutionimports.com"

What that means exactally? Don't know. Seems as if they're about to be finally legal.



Later,
Jb

Yea, we have been hearing that for some time now. 2 more weeks 2 more weeks
I'm just going to sit here and have another well enough to get me by.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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Old May 6, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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Hello,
I feel so oblivious to this website and its posts. I posted a thread asking about updates to the EI situation. Luckily this opened up a lot of new facts and points, and above all some new points made by Señor Info. Even though his comments and quotes give most people very pessimistic attitudes, I feel that the end result isn't going to us having our asses kick and watching pics of our cars getting crushed

Even though you, Señor Info, have a strong case on the GT3 case, I feel that in looking at a GT3 and its interior, isn't the car itself really made for a race track? I remember going to a local dealership (Champion Racing: Porsche) and glancing at a GT3. It only had one seat...basically a race ready car. I might be jumping to conclusions, but it seemed to me that an Evo 7 that has the same chassis as an Evo8 will be that fact that will win the petition. Weren't the Skylines also based on the 300z and 240zx chassis?

Getting away from the Evo 7 subject, when looking at the DOT list of vehicles that are eligible for importation and conversion, you can find a car that sticks out. It lists that the RX-7 can be brought over, and at the same time the car can be brought over while keeping the RHD setup. Can someone look into what was done to make that done and maybe some facts can be taken from that.

I really feel that new lights will be drawn up in the next coming weeks as I’ve been told that NHTSA will be posting the petition on board. Hopefully something good will come out. I wonder where I as the same as other buyers would be it weren’t for these forums?

sorry if my grammer is a little off, I always write my posts in the late night
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Old May 6, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by YellwTyper
Getting away from the Evo 7 subject, when looking at the DOT list of vehicles that are eligible for importation and conversion, you can find a car that sticks out. It lists that the RX-7 can be brought over, and at the same time the car can be brought over while keeping the RHD setup. Can someone look into what was done to make that done and maybe some facts can be taken from that.
You need to read the preface to NHTSA's vehicle eligibility list (see http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...LIG012703.html). It says:
eligibility numbers are for left-hand drive motor vehicles except where right-hand drive (RHD) is identified after the model. While there is no specific restriction on importing a right-hand drive vehicle, an eligibility number based on a substantially similar U.S.- certified motor vehicle may not apply. Our experience has shown that the safety performance of right-hand drive vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, we will consider them "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises us that the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the certified left-hand drive vehicle in crash tests. If the vehicle is not substantially similar to one sold in the U.S., the RI would have to demonstrate that the vehicle, when modified, would comply with the applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards, which could involve crash testing several vehicles.
You'll find there is only one entry in that list with the (RHD) notation, and it isn't for a Mazda RX-7.

Originally posted by YellwTyper
Even though you, Señor Info, have a strong case on the GT3 case, I feel that in looking at a GT3 and its interior, isn't the car itself really made for a race track? I remember going to a local dealership (Champion Racing: Porsche) and glancing at a GT3. It only had one seat...basically a race ready car. I might be jumping to conclusions, but it seemed to me that an Evo 7 that has the same chassis as an Evo8 will be that fact that will win the petition. Weren't the Skylines also based on the 300z and 240zx chassis?
The Porsche GT3 interior is every bit as luxurious as that of any Porsche at your local dealership. Porsche has manufactured quite a few racing versions (the GT3 R, GT3 Cup, and GT3 RS) which aren't intended for street use and come from the factory with a welded-in roll cage, fuel cell, etc.. You may have seen one of those variants, since they're quite easy to import for competition use and very popular on race tracks in the US. The GT3 petition was for the street version GT3 and failed, in my opinion, primarily due to the fact that its fuel tank was different than the fuel tanks used in US-version 911s. It is worth noting, again, that the Evo VII's fuel tank has a different capacity than either the base US Lancer or the US Evo VIII.

As of today, NHTSA has not issued a notice that it has received a petition for the Evo VII.

I'm baffled why all the Evo VIIs distributed by E.I. around the country were collected up and sent back to Santa Ana. I wonder whether anyone who temporarily took possession of their E.I. street-legal Evo VII was given copies of the customs documents for their Evo VII. If so, can you tell us whether Box 8 was used/checked on the HS-7 Declaration form? I bet it was.

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Old May 6, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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I really don’t think anyone is going to know how they got the cars to be registered, but either way I still think there is some progress. I’m not saying that there is a positive movement, but just clues to what’s going to happen.

Hopefully the guy who started this thread can throw in a couple of words and clear up any misconceptions.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Hello again,
Going back to the whole crash test situation, EI is basically trying to get the cars legal by saying that the chassis are identical to US Evo’s. The other way would be to get a letter from higher ranking personnel stating that, “…the vehicle does meet U.S. crash test standards, and if not exceeds them.” I remember a while back talking to an RI and what it would take to leaving a car RHD and he told me exactly what I wrote before. The RI told me that he did actually attempt to get a letter from a person in Japan. He told me he kept going up the corporate ladder got in contact with a qualified person. The RI told me that he got to keep a 94 Toyota car RHD by using that letter. Before we jump to any conclusions, it still does sound a little shady the way he explained it to me, but just by using that it might be a possibility in EI’s case to get a letter from a European based corporation.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Like anyone from Mitsu (or any manufacturer) is dumb enough to write a letter attempting to help someone get a car into our country without crash testing it!

I would also have to think that writing a letter get you no where......otherwise there would be no more official crash tests, and simply letters from "higher on the ladder" type person.

and...the obvious.... why would Mitsu change the Evo VII after such a short run if it was able to pass the USA crash test? ......because it won't.... Mitsu did not waste millions of $ redoing the front end of the Evolution to "freshen up" a 1 year old car.

at this point, a crash test is stupid (with legal 2003 Evolutions out)....... No Evo VII's will be street legal in the USA...until they are 25 years old......



Originally posted by YellwTyper
Hello again,
Going back to the whole crash test situation, EI is basically trying to get the cars legal by saying that the chassis are identical to US Evo’s. The other way would be to get a letter from higher ranking personnel stating that, “…the vehicle does meet U.S. crash test standards, and if not exceeds them.” I remember a while back talking to an RI and what it would take to leaving a car RHD and he told me exactly what I wrote before. The RI told me that he did actually attempt to get a letter from a person in Japan. He told me he kept going up the corporate ladder got in contact with a qualified person. The RI told me that he got to keep a 94 Toyota car RHD by using that letter. Before we jump to any conclusions, it still does sound a little shady the way he explained it to me, but just by using that it might be a possibility in EI’s case to get a letter from a European based corporation.
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