Wait, why are you getting emails? Did you subscribe to the thread on purpose? You know you can unsubscribe, right?

Also why do you subscribe in the first place - your posts aren't of any value here other than to criticize, antagonize, and demean other Evo8 owners and enthusiasts here.

Just another item in a long line of things that don't make sense about you and your posts.

 

LOLROF, from the toolbag that does not have a evo BUT KNOWS HOW BAD THEY SUCK. Get your Acura back, the EVO is a POS

 

You sure do love putting words in my mouth. I have never said I know anything about the Evo other than what other people say that makes me wary of buying one right now until issues are resolved. But you continuously try to put those words in my mouth.
People who are airing complaints here have to put up with posters like you - hyperactive, immature children who run around here mouthing off to people looking for help or support with their situations.

Please, keep posting. Your signature quote about Honda sums up your entire useless attitude here.

 

Actually, Ryanmcd2 is a PERFECT example of ... He belittles people who own or don't own EVOs or 's for that matter.

To potential buyers of the EVO or any car, if you want to know how the manufacturer is going to treat you or what their attitude is going to be like... just read Ryanmcd2's posts...

When you bring your car in for warranty service, they'll be like "haha, what a dip****, he shouldn't have bought a "...

The dealer is also thinking like him most of the time, let me quote:

I think that's the typical attitude you can expect from
, not too far from Ryanmcd2's attitude.

So let me say thank you Ryanmcd2, for pretty much being the embodiment of 's attitude toward their consumers.

 

I especially love the notion that I can't comment unless I own one. So ryan if I spend my money on an Evo8, will you come over to rust-proof the parts that Mitsu "missed", put on a layer of clearcoat (or pay to have it done at a shop), and pay for any problems that the dealership wrongfully denies? You know since you don't have a problem with those things and insist I own the vehicle before I can post here. That's all that prevents me from owning one so if you are willing to resolve those issues for me, I'd go for it. Whaddaya say?


See, I love the car itself. The things preventing me from buying one are things no normal new car should ever have preventing potential owners from buying it and upsetting current owners.

Generally things that prevent a sale are price, or a need for certain features that aren't available. Not warranty-refusal (customer service issues) and build quality issues.

 

Jesus H Christ...can we lock this thread yet?

 

Aww come on.. We have Mitsu personified and the duress customers are exposed to... It's amazing how some people have trouble either reading or comprehending. As Jrock put it, people on here should hold Mitsu to higher standards and stick together in pointing out deficiencies to Mitsu. Stick together and ask them to admit to the mistake, as Mazda did with mis rated Miatas and now the RX8. That's standing behind their product, even when they make a mistake. Mitsu should be expected to do the same, not just say oh they've always sucked, so they should continue to suck.. That's just plain stupid.

 

Sure, the car has a few issues. But IMO they're not major enough to ruin my enjoyment of it. I still believe that there's not another car available that I would be more happy with than this one, despite the issues.

My only problem with Mitsu is that they supposedly void the warranty at the drop of a hat. In fact, I don't see why the warranty should be void if you do AutoX or some track days. Seriously, the car is designed to handle this kind of stress. It WANTS you to drive the **** out of it. Now if you screw up the settings on your AFC and blow up the engine, then that's an entirely different story. If I do engine mods, I certainly don't excpect them to look the other way if something engine-related breaks.

Of course these warranty issues are only based on what I've heard others complain about, I've no personal experience in getting my warranty voided. But you know what? It STILL wouldn't ruin my enjoyment of the car. And the only way I would rule out Mitsu for future purchases is if they screwed me like that for some illogical reason. As for now, if there's a better Evo available in a few years, and there's STILL nothing on the road that tops it in my book, then I wouldn't hesitate to get one.

 

DefBringer,

thanks for your comments, I still believe it will make it easier to fight with more than one complaint form one individual. An attorney wouldnt make much money from one small claim (unless I let them milk me dry), but a major claim from many owners seems like the way to go. Just my 2 cents.

And YES!!!! Not a single friggin launch!!! I was still in break in. RPMs under 4-5K. No dropping of clutches... not racing friends. Being a ***** when getting hit up, yep thats me. I planned on keeping the car for life. I broke it in as proper as it gets. I thought I would have plenty of time to play after break in... but oh well.. . it BROKE.

 

I honestly find it hard to believe that any of you have complaints. Every car has its flaws, that's inevitable. You can't expect any car to be perfect 'cause everyone would have one (that includes outrageous prices and impossible shipping details, blah blah). Personally, and I don't own an Evo, I think the good WAY outweigh the bad. Enough that if my entire paint rusted off and I had to drive around in primer, I would, happily.

Secondly, if you buy an Evo and don't intend on voiding the warranty, I'm not sure the car is for you. I know that is a generalization and a stereotype, but it's not a negative one. The Evo is simply designed to go fast, and why not make it faster. Look at the MR version that was displayed at the Tokyo show: no A/C, no radio; the Evo's aren't becoming anymore luxurious as they evolve. Whether or not Mitsubishi put on an "additional clear coat" should not be a concern when buying the car. IMO, you're putting way too much thought into it. YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE PERFECT CAR, THERE ARE ALWAYS CRITICS. From gas mileage, to FWD, to lack of torque, to god knows what next. Trying to fight against Mitsubishi and forcing a recall only makes it worse for the new cars. If they recall all Evo's for a new paint job and whatever else it is you guys complain about, guess how much the new Evo with the new paint and whatever else is going to cost. I'm trying to rough it as it is to afford to pick up a new Evo, or even a used one as it is, there is no need to make it cost $5k more. Mitsubishi isn't the #1 car manufacturer so don't act like it is, or should be.

Problems happen, your Evo isn't GARAUNTEED to not break, and if it does, and you had NOTHING to do with it, you have my sympathy. If you have racing intentions, face the repercussions. And if you don't have racing intentions, maybe the Evo isn't the car for you. They make Lancers you know.

 

I don't think poor quality is related to mutually exclusive trade offs. To make more power you must use more fuel. So Power and Fuel Economy are mutually exlcusive. Light weight and fewer ammenities go together, but you can't make something lighter by adding more things do it, unless you're adding helium.. Grippier tires wear more. Valid trade off. Lighter cars, are noiser without added noise insulation. fine.

I don't think many people are complaining about these issues other than when they realize the cost involved with the high maintenance.

The issues stem from the items that are not a trade off or balancing act. Good Paint is not going to weigh more, affect emissions, or handling. It is something that is either good or bad. Mitsu should make it Good.. A clutch is designed to grab and transfer power, it either does it or it does. Mitsu should make sure they transfer power for more than 10k miles.

Qaulity is not mutually exclusive of a Fun, PermaGrin vehicle.

 

It all comes down to money, the cost of adding paint weighs out due to the cost of adding a set of Recaro seats. The balance is money. Mitsubishi decides what takes priority, not the consumer, and for the most part, the consumer agrees, with these exceptions.

True, I've read the clutch is weak. That has to do with the USDM version of the Evo only. The clutch was designed solely to attract more "average" consumers, as opposed to tuners/fanatics. They slap a soft clutch on, and the car seems more comfortable and driveable for the 5% of the consumers who are ignorant to the potential of the Evo (I've said this before). If you can afford an Evo, you can afford to put on a new clutch by the time you have driven 10,000 miles. Granted it shouldn't have to be replaced at all if you don't drive hard (that sometimes isn't the case); blame the "average Amercian consumer" for that. The same balancing act weighs within the federal court system and our democracy as well. We are a country "by the people for the people". The clutch is "for the people" not "for the tuners" as much as you consider yourselves "people". Considering the amount of power the car is putting out, it definitely should have a better clutch, BUT that heavier clutch might deprieve Mitsu of 100 sales, whereas people like "us" would say "hell, who gives a crap, I'm gonna get a new one anyway", and you know you're going to.

 

Big business isn't a democracy. it's capitalism, though our governemnt is being undermined to be a capitalist republic.

We the consumer do decide what takes priority with our checkbooks. Go ask any dealership how the Evo is selling. If they want to sell em, they have to offer want people want.. I think that is the best indication of whether or not Mitsu chose wisely.

 

You're missing the point - no new car should have rust or terrible paint with little-or-no clearcoat. Those are not acceptable at ANY LEVEL OF COST for a NEW car. They aren't valid options to place on the balance in the first place.

 

Sir, ain't NOTHING selling that well right now, throughout the entire model line. Our numbers are way off from last year. The 9 Evos I've got left are a minor concern. Its these seventy odd '03 Galants and fifty odd '03 'Sports we still have that ARE. Especially when the redesigned '04 Galant is just around the corner. The whole auto industry could use a shot of adrenaline to get rolling, particularly Mitsubishi.

Evos will always require that special sort of customer, and they tend to be very informed. I don't think we've sold one yet to someone who hadn't heard of the car or haven't researched it before coming in. All of them left happy and to this date have had none of the issues stated here. Just a faulty 02 sensor is all we've seen. I hope the trend continues, I just don't think the population on this board represents the entire Evo community, so it is difficult to make final judgments on what we read here.