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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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i have hks 280s, 102k miles at 155psi across all 4 cylinders
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Factory service manual says Min. is 138 psi.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoRob22
1) Should be around 140

2) Cams should not change compression because the valves are closed when doing a compression check

3) They should all be relatively the same. They should all be around 140. If one is lower than it shows premature wear in that cylinder. If it is lower in all the cylinders than it shows wear in all cylinders. They should all be 140.

4) If you have a lower compression do a wet compression check. This is squirting some oil in the cylinder. If the compression increases then drops after a while you have a worn piston rings. The oil will sit inbetween the cylinder wall and the piston wall and when the oil gets past the compression will then lower again.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

All of your info is correct. Except number 2. Which could not be more wrong. Cams, and pistons are the two things that create your static compression number.

Larger cams have overlap, and thus less compression. Higher or lower CR pistons will also take this in to account.

An stock piston evo 8 with good rings, and hks272's made 155 on my compression tester. My completely stock evo 8, made 175 psi on the very same tester, 2 mins later. All readings were taken AT WOT and with the motor at or close to operating temp. With my new motor - I will take a reading after about 500 miles and see. This will be 9.0 wiseco pistons and kelford 272 cams. I expect to see numbers in the mid to high 150's.




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so it seems like cams shouldnt affect compression at all.

Thanks for the help guys
See post above.

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Factory service manual says Min. is 138 psi.

138 is very low - only extreme milage, or a lost of hg, or broken ring land will lead to this..
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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for reference, evo 8's should have around 160 which is a strong motor and evo 9's with around 140 for a strong motor

Rob
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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My low mileage evo8 def had 175 on the tester when hot.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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I was getting 170psi across the board with GSC S2's and stock block.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 04:05 AM
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my evo with 50 k miles stock block and cams tested at 155 psi cold
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 04:13 AM
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engine is big air pump , so everything you do intake , cams , exhaust ,valve job , intake manifold will impact the compression in some way , highly overlaping cams will lower compression readings , also it makes difference if engine is cold or hot
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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The service limit for EVO 9 IX compression test is 650 kpa which is about 95psi. Normal is 1000 kpa or 145psi. I have put together an evo 9 engine with fp5r cams twice. On a fresh build after a few hundred miles of driving both times I have numbers right around 100psi. No variance between cylinders. Also performed a leak down test and the leak down numbers were good. So everything was sealed up tight.

I would not get too concerned with a used cammed evo 9 engine compression unless it was in the 70s, and or if there was a substantial difference in cylinders. You have to remember that not only do larger cams have more overlap so less air gets trapped during the test, but mivec cams gear is at full retard when there is no oil psi. I believe with the stock cam that this would actually be about 7* retarded compared to an evo 8 intake cam. I dont know off hand what most aftermarket mivec cams are ground on.

Also on "built" engines, you will have to take in affect the material removed in the combustion chamber to unshroud the valve, as well as larger valve reliefs/different dish cc of the piston.


If you have consistent low numbers on a compression test in any evo 9 I would do a leak down test before freaking out. Mainly, if the car runs as good as you like and its not smoking/using a lot of oil, dont worry about it.
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