Ur an idiot forsaken ur what's wrong with people who thinks us evo owners are preppy dics thank you sirfor proving them all right

 

meh... im done arguing the subject... theres no point... kudos to those who are willing to spend ALOT of money on certian things.. im not one of those people anymore... i will happily build my car the way i want to build it, and if people have a problem with parts that are on my car, they can eat monkey fecal matter! im VERY happy with my car! and that is truly all that matters to me!

 

i've never been one to buy knock off products, it's not a status thing... it's because i appreciate an original product and know the time and money spent in developing these products. i SAVE for the expensive stuff... so everyone saying "if you cant afford it" you can afford what you want if you have the patience to save your money... it's called budgeting, you people drive evos... if you can barely afford anything for the car, then sell it and drive a base model civic or stop complaining. it's pathetic seeing the amount of people willing to undersell a proven company making original products, just so their car can "look" just like the real thing... this truly does hurt the companies doing all of the work. i can't wait for the day making knock off's becomes illegal all together... this IS stealing in my eyes.

 

Thank god. Finally someone who agrees. Thank u nativess and forsaken it is people like us that is what really makes the import community not these idiots. Like they said if u can't afford the real deal stick wit a domestic neon. Everyone knows that.The same part for an evo is higher in cost than the same thing for a civic because we drive an evo. U all knew this before buying one and decided to be ricers and shop ebay because u wanted to look cool in the evo but couldn afford it. And as for mommy and daddy buying my **** ha I applaud the effort to find an excuse to bash me but I have worked since I was 14 for what I have had and only owned three cars an eclipse which I sold for down payment on my evo which the bank still technically owns and my crx which I bought 5 years ago. And the pictures of the togue factory evo and the other pos proves nothing togue factory supposedly makes a voltex knockoff when u google them an old forum on this site comes up. And low and behold the author of that forum that was selling the knockoff is banned for nonpayment. I wonder if that means he was taking peoples money without giving product? Prob so. And when u search togue factory nothin comes up. And if their knockoffs do the same thing y are their achievements not recognized? I never heard of either of those places accomplishing anything. I wonder y. And yes this forum is about a body kit to whoever said that and I and a few others answered his question the body kit might look good it prob wont fit exactly right and in alot of peoples eyes u are hurting the industry by supporting knockoffs and are a disgrace to those of us who are trying to keep the scene alive. And ill preach that till the day I die because it should be illegal.

 

lets step away from the "and you ppl own evos"... your making it sound like were all rich or something

Anybody who believes that buying knock offs is killing the industry is a douche.... Here we are in 2010 and there has yet to be anybody that has been so called KILLED by cheaper parts...variety is what makes the industry roll... the sooner you learn that the sooner we can call this thread a day

I am not one to personally get my parts from ebay and whatnot...but if somebody can and everybody loves their whip...so be it...who am i to say something about it...

Im not a hater...sorry

and as far as illegal knock offs....they should repo the monitor your on because its not a samsung

 

Oh and one thing i read that is kinda funny is somebody...not mentioning any names said if ya want to buy knock offs go buy a honda...... kinda made me snicker a lil bit... im not hating though... do what you do!

 

i know buying knock off's hurts the industry, look at how much the sales have gone down for companies like GReddy, HKS and Tial sport with all the knock off products being made from their R&D work... especially in the last 10 years. do some homework before you open your mouth so wide, bull**** falls out, and your foot is the only way to plug it up.

never go full retard.

 

I don't believe in buying knock offs for any part of the car, as others have stated it's about giving respect and kudos to the companies that do the R & D work.

Am I going to put **** on you for doing so yourself? No go ahead do it, it's your car, your choice.

Do i fear going off the track with a genuine voltex or ings kit? Yes it's going to hurt.

Will it make me buy a cheap kit? Probably not.

I honestly thought it was illegal to copy , you had to make some sort of creative difference to make a copy legal, obviously not.

 

Some people obviously don't know how free market economies work. Greddy and HKS are a great example of how free markets work to the benefit of consumers. They had some original products for sale to the EVO community. They charged a lot of money for them since they had a good control on the market. Then other companies saw opportunity to make money as well. These companies come out with better products for competitive or cheaper prices.

Consumers now have CHOICE. When there are more choices, the consumer is the one who wins. We as consumers need to encourage competition. Flash forward to today. I don't know one product from Greddy or HKS I would own. There are much better products on the market than they offer at competitive prices.

On a final note, I find being lectured by people with poor grammar skills to be more insulting than knock off products.

 

If you are thinking/worrying about your "genuine anythng" while on a track then you will have problems

 

 

It has nothing to do with money on how you build in evo u act like we are ruining it by building it how we want to build it if ur jackass self wants to spend 4 grand on a body kit not even made in ur own country and say "I'm worried about the company" ur an idiot its called a bargain or budget build u stupid *****. Id take a eBay built car over ur crap any day for the simple fact of my eBay car will stomP ur 4grabd body kit cause I had money for the motor not worry about how my piece of plastic that is just like ur overpriced piece break

 

nativss...yeah there have been declines in these companies...and also across the board in all companies....sony...samsung....HKS.....microsoft.. ..all companies have seen declines... have you heard of the economic recession...IDIOTS these days man

 

the exterior can look how it looks I spend the real money on the motor. The economy is getting worse these big so-called jdm companies dont care about you. Good luck attempting to get warranty on your 4k kit but again its your money if you wanna save then so be it. Both cars still look and preform the same

 

whats funny is, you dont have to be broke to not want to spend a rediculous amount of money on fiberglass! i for one make plenty of money! and have plenty of money! i CHOOSE not to spend anywhere close to that much on fiberglass! and trust me, if there were no cheaper kits available, id have a stock bodied evo! so voltex isnt losing any money from me!

you guys make yourselves sound retarded with the "go buy a neon" crap... lol...but it makes me laugh, so by all means, continue some of us on this forum are just a little smarter than you guys and spend our money WISELY! go ahead and buy your 4500 body kit! and see if you get half of your investment back later down the road! or when you wreck your car.. see the chuck of money you lost...but us... it wont be nearly as bad ive been there! i used to be in your shoes! only the best body kits that were jdm bling, blah blah blah... but ive grown up! and ive seen how much money ive lost, blowing it on crap that i could have gotten cheaper elsewhere if i wasnt worried about a stupid name!

so the point you are missing is that some of us CAN afford the real deal, we just CHOOSE not to waste our hard earned money on it! my list of QUALITY parts to knock off parts is like 99%/1%...parts like hks, project mu, voltex, varis, samco, map performance, fujita, nisia, turbosmart, jic, perrin, kansai, sparco, nardi are all on my car! and i will HAPPILY tell people i have a knock off cwest front bumper! i can afford the authentic one.. but its going to get damaged anyways..so why bother! i DRIVE my car! i dont baby it, i dont worry AT ALL about if any of my parts get a scratch on them, or anything like that! because thats what happens when you spend so much money on a body kit.. you worry all the time that something could happen... HELL, i LOVE to go play in the mud! get my car all dirty, and just have a blast! id LOVE to see someone with a REAL voltex, chargesped, cwest, or any other authentic kit out there, going out and playing in the mud, snow, etc! you wont, because they spent so much on their kit, that they fear just driving the damn car on city streets! again, I KNOW!, IVE BEEN THERE! buying the real deal is only practical for people who barely EVER drive their cars, or are building a pure show car, or pure track car (and can afford to constantly replace the parts due to damage)... but in the real world, those of us who daily drive our cars,knock offs are the smartest way to go!

oh, and if companies have a problem with people knocking their stuff off, then maybe they should get with the program and also create "economy" kits... just like almost ALL manufacturers have a variety of the same product, from entry level to skys the limit! almost all companies have entry level parts! not just in automotive, but everywhere! tvs, stereos, furniture... theres always inexpensive alternatives to their high end product! but when a companys "entry level" kit is well over $4000, that leaves a HUGE gap in customers! and other companies see this, and step in to fill that gap! if the original company isnt smart enough to do this on their own, then thats on them! i know they can produce a cheaper alternative body kit! they just choose not to! so thats their bad! nobody to blame but them and their pride!

heres a good example! buying a diamond ring! you go to a jewelry store.. theres small diamonds, big diamonds, cubic zerconia ("knock off" diamonds)... theres something for just about everyones budget! some cant afford real diamonds (or they can, they just choose to buy the lesser of 2 evils), so they get the fake diamonds... some cant afford the big real diamonds, so they buy small diamonds... a select few can buy the extravagant diamonds! but everyone is happy! jewelry stores have stocked their place with something for everyone! of all budgets! because they know if they JUST stocked their store with nothing but the high end diamonds, they would lose too much business and possibly not survive! 95% of this world understands the concept of supply and demand... if there is demand for a lower cost body kit, the manufacturer should fill that demand with supply! if they dont, wont, or cant... then its fair game for anyone else to jump in there and fill that demand with supply and make that money! welcome to the real world! it may not be pretty, but its the way it is!