Evo was never engineered for top speed or the drag race scene or even race tracks. It was engineered for rally. Evo is in a whole other league then the GTR once you put in on snow or gravel - GTR won't stand a chance.

On a high speed track, which is what the GTR was specifically engineered for, Evo doesn't stand a chance (stock).

But where the money comes into play, the depreciation hit on the GTR combined with maintenance, instead of throwing that money away you could put it into an Evo that could legitimately challenge the GTR on the track. That's where things get interesting.

 

Insurance on my GT-R is cheaper than my Evo, FYI.

And yeah an Evo with 38k in mods might beat a GT-R, but will it be reliable? No, it wont. Things break when you make power like that on a car designed to have 300hp.

 

Seriously, 90% of you are blabbering inconsistent bull**** about the GT-R and the GT-R warranty. You should all get your facts straight before putting thoughts in other peoples head.

 

THings do break but the 20K for a new transmission in the GTR buys an engine, turbo, wheels, areo, suspension, transmission for the evo with money left over.
I love the new GTRs but have a problem with the ultimate track potential of any car weighing 3800 lbs.

 

no its not boss. my 350z stays at the dealer in the show room so i know all about the gtr. maybe where your at prices are cheaper but down here they are exactly as described. Since you got a gtr more power to you but parts labor general maintence are still overpriced and expensive.

 

Kind of funny how an evo forum is complaining about Nissan voiding warrenties, since you know Mitsubishi is always so good about it

Also to you players who think the GTR is a chick magnet - Save your money and buy a 128i

 

On several occasions I've gotten to race a GTR on my old home town track. The driver of the GTR was my first instructor. My set up is fairly well thought out, ohlins, bushings, sway bar, 3050lbs with me in it, 550whp, 255's. On the straights I could reel in and pass (although I'd drop back per the excercise), but in the corners if I didn't run a perfect line and set up just right for the next braking zone I would lose ground. With better areo (I have none) and perhaps slicks the outcome will be different, but I'm not planing on spending another 10k anytime soon. Also, because my friend is very kind, we switched cars and his story was the same. The GTR is a really well put together car. Hope this offers some perspective.

 

For roadcourse I would go with a used 996TT with exhaust/tune/suspension/pads/wheels/tires and some time at a driving school.
It's real tough to beat a great driver in a 996TT or GT3. I would prefer a used R8 but the premium price tag means a less impressive cost:fun factor (which is where the Evo really dominates). But what the heck, I'm spending your moey now!

 

Nice post! its nice to get perspective from people who have driven both cars in a track condition such as you and pure. This sort of goes along with what I have been seeing about how the gtr adjust itself to get the lemonade from the lemons of a bad line.

if you are up for speculating do you think an sayc or evo X would fair better for the times when you didnt have a perfect line or do you think the GTR is just to far ahead on the tech curve?

Pure I agree mitsu's warranties arent so hot either. I think the GTR is a fantastic car. Its a compliment that we would go through this speculation. We prolly jumped track a bit when speaking about warranty issues. The target GTR in this comparo is stock only so that we can keep an idea on what the target dollar amount would be.

 

agreed!

 

^^^ yup lol chicks dont know nething about cars lol!! better off buying a rangerover or a 5 series beamer.. they might recognize that

 

the evo is a full breed rally car thats why it was built and sold ! do you think those 4g63's run 300hp the reason why the evo has low hp out of the box is so they can pass safety/emissions tests and sell the car at a reasonable price without going though the roof in car insurance!

thats why you see some of these shop making over 1000whp and the motors holding together that say alot, is it reliable no but what car is at that power level...

you can make a very reliable evo that eats r35 all day for less then half the price of what you would spend on your gtr!! you would be well into the $100,000+ mark with your gtr trying to keep up with a reliable 30k evo that has 38k put into it...

now if your modding the car i dont think theres any dealer out there that would warranty the car in any way, so as peace of mind parts are very cheap for the evo compared to the gtr! evo brand new 5sp cost 3K - gtr brand new trans 19K that mean i could have 6 new trans with 1k left over, you better hope nothing go's wrong in that car if your modding it

 

Look's like it doesn't matter how you cut it the GTR for the win is the best bet, I rather have a stock GTR over a Modified High HP evo Anyday!!!

 

This is actually a very apt description

I don't have any seat time in a X, but I couldn't imagine the addition of ayc being a bad thing. It's not really an option for me so I don't spend alot of time thinking of that 'what if'. I think an upgraded rear diff could help as it would allow/encourage me to throttle out of a corner sooner.
I know the AMS X lapped a tad faster than their project GTR, but I can only imagine the budget on that.

 

The GT-R is in a completely different class than the EVO. It should more be compared with a ZO6.

I'd personally much rather have a Z06. RWD + Manual + superb reliability + intoxicating sound = love.

The only near replacement for the EVO is an STi.