I don't know about you but I always have this question in my head: What car (thats almost affordable could replace the EVO).

It seems by definition that the car would need to be AWD, and for me that is a must. So the latest revision of the GTR is coming. Again its godzilla reborn. But even if I could scrounge the marked up 100K sticker, is this really a car that i could drive in snowy/crappy winters! But for fun lets try it.

Things that we need to upgrade to catch a stock GTR on a track ?

1) I think the biggest shortcoming of the EVO IX is its final drive: Not being able to crest 160MPH is the first thing.

2) Active Suspension. Maybe we should jump right to an evo X Se ? or didnt the jdm IX's have all the goodies that the X's have ? refit ? So actively handling without the weight penatly of a X.

3) Aero: Pretty sure we are going to hit some serious air on the big end versus.

4) Carbon Brakes. Insanity ?

I am making the assumption that any evo can be upgraded to make the power. So we don't need to go there

Lets play the paper tiger game and see where it takes us

 

I think the Evo 8/9 properly set-up will easily surpass the GTR. You're potentially talking about an Evo that could weigh 1000+ lbs lighter than the GTR and be built to reliably handle more horsepower.

 

You could make it beat one at the track with enough money and time, but at the drive-in, the Evo would attract the dudes, and the GTR would attract the chicks. Enough said.

 

weight reduction, good suspension setup, hta green with bolt-ons and e85
its not gonna take a whole bunch of money like these people are saying

 

It will take a evo about 50k in mods and you will still have all the rattle's and at the end of the day you still driving a evo that you can't sell for even 28k.

 

On that last part, oh how very wrong you are lol.


Why don't YOU get off this forum and play x-box. He asked a completely legitimate question. If you have nothing of value to add, don't post.



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And to op, you would need to invest quite a bit of money in AERO and Suspension work.. And I mean big money. Having owned both cars, the differences in handling is phenomenal. You would also need to be making a little over 500-600whp, while sustaining high torque. Depending on the track, you are definitely right about the final drive.

My .02c, Just buy a used GT-R for 60-70. With a tune, you're at just over 500whp with upper 400's in TQ.

 

50k? thats a joke

 

$50K is ridiculous. Does this include a body kit and paint on top of performance mods? Is topspeed the issue here or just overall performance. For now, I only drag my car and pushing 390hp on Dyno Dynamics and run a quarter at 11.6@114 with a garbage 60' of 1.9. Dialing in the car and getting a better launch will definitely be up to snuff with the R35. Average spending in performance mods is at about $10K. But this is only a 1/4 mile comparison.

 

alright, alright 38k in mods and you do the work yourself to keep it together

How many evo's can do 192mph out the box no flash, no mods, no e-85, no race gas.


How many ?

 

Id say 30-40k in mods.

Looking at about 15k+ in mods both performance, tranny, etc.
Something like 10k+ in suspension +tuning the suspension.
You'll need wheels, tires, amazing brakes and pads, lets say 8k+.
Last you'll need aero mods, probably a body kit (or at least say front bumper/rear bumper/diffusers ), wing, etc. Thats another 5k+


What makes the GT-R so fast is it's transmission. The ability to shift in under .02 seconds.. is just short of a miracle. I see videos all the time of GT-R's beating TT Lambos with E-Gear just because of shift speed.

 

OUCH!!!

I agree. Top speed is the issue and aero is the answer...or not. The EVO is a four door box. Never intended for ultra high speed. Building an EVO that could keep up or beat a GT-R up to 150mph would be fairly easy and inexpensive.

However, above 150mph the cost for the EVO to keep up starts to ramp up pretty fast and pretty steep.

To the OP...please don't laugh...but a car I will be watching very closely will be the new VW GTI-R. It won't keep up with a GT-R, but it might be a good replacement consideration for the EVO at a fairly reasonable price.

 

38k in mods lol... ok a stock 9 with 38k put into it will SLAUGHTER a modded r35 in every way and will be a ton more fun to drive while doing so! also the evo's a 1000 times easier to work on and the maintenance/insurance wont absolutely kill you

just my $0.02 lol

 

Evos aren't top speed cars. The engineers designing it would have taken a whole different approach when desgining it if that was one of their goals.

The only time I see Evos pitted against GT-Rs is in Time Attack, and that usually favors cars with quick acceleration ,great grip and light weight. Insideline already made an X that could hang with the "old" GT-R so use that article as a starting point and add some more horsepower to catch the new 2012 one.

Assuming you are going to get all your money or even a significant portion of it back after heavily modding ANY car is and always will be silly.

 

Good thread. I think I would take a new 911 over a GTR though

 

I was rolling over numbers in my head.

I think several of you are very very right.

Ohlins or motec plus supporting for suspension
Sheppard to redo our trans and difs.
plus all the engine and body stuff.

It does sounds like 30K-40K is the gap between great car and super car.

I wonder how close an fq360 or fq400 would be to a GTR. If I remember right the 400's could knock out 170mph. While there would still be a gap perhaps it wouldnt be 30K

Perhaps a US IX would be better served by finding a salvage fq as a donor car?

for the sti troll let me be clear: This is a pursuit of what it would take to bridge the gap to a super car. Or if in fact that it can be done without surpassing the cost of the super car.

Thanks