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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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I would try to get the car back as soon as possible, regardless of what state it is in.

Create a file and document all phone calls, work orders, emails, etc. about the transaction, the blown headgasket and such. Have two sets of the file, one for you and one for the attorney should you go that route.

Your basic claim would be a contractual violation, with perhaps a property damage claim. I don't know what the laws are like in Connecticut, so you might want to google about it. Some states only honor written contracts while others like CA will enforce verbal and written contracts.

I would also try to recover the costs of the blown headgasket since he damaged the car. You may also be entitled of loss of use, which again depends on the state of venue. If this guy has a reputable business he may have a liability policy that you may be able to make a claim against, if not you will want to obtain information about him. If there are no assets to recover against, you will be better off getting the car back and eating the costs, unless you want to be vindictive and get a judgment against him which will only cost you more money.

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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I think I know who, but should't the shop he works at be responsible?? was this a side job?

Like others said, get a laywer call BBB do something. 6 months is nuts.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Why don't you talk to the owner of the actual shop and see what he can do form you, if anything. I know the shop owner and tuner, neither are crooks and will do what is right....it just may take awhile. I'd suggest calmly going to the shop and speaking with the actual owner. This thread is doing you nor anyone else any good.
The shop owner ignores my phone calls 99% of the time. It'll ring twice and then go straight to voicemail. I've talked to everyone there multiple times. I've made 8+ trips up there to try to reconcile with them. I've even went as far as to try to get the shop to do the work instead of the tuner and they agree, the car sits, I call some more, no one answers, empty promises are made, and I'm left with nothing and in the dark about the situation, again.

I didn't mention names because I don't think its fair to call someone out in front of the community that they make a living in, but enough is enough. I'm tired of being pushed around and ignored.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 05ah8james
I'm tired of being pushed around and ignored.
Five months late, but better late than never. Good luck through this ordeal =)
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kwanza
I would try to get the car back as soon as possible, regardless of what state it is in.

Create a file and document all phone calls, work orders, emails, etc. about the transaction, the blown headgasket and such. Have two sets of the file, one for you and one for the attorney should you go that route.

Your basic claim would be a contractual violation, with perhaps a property damage claim. I don't know what the laws are like in Connecticut, so you might want to google about it. Some states only honor written contracts while others like CA will enforce verbal and written contracts.

I would also try to recover the costs of the blown headgasket since he damaged the car. You may also be entitled of loss of use, which again depends on the state of venue. If this guy has a reputable business he may have a liability policy that you may be able to make a claim against, if not you will want to obtain information about him. If there are no assets to recover against, you will be better off getting the car back and eating the costs, unless you want to be vindictive and get a judgment against him which will only cost you more money.

Good luck.
Thank you for taking the time to write that. Many good pointers. I appreciate it, very much!!

Originally Posted by evo milk
I think I know who, but should't the shop he works at be responsible?? was this a side job?

Like others said, get a laywer call BBB do something. 6 months is nuts.
I guess. I paid him to come to my actual place of residence and put a break in tune on it. I drove it for 3000 miles, and then dropped it off with him. He ignored that the car was even there for around a month, I got pissed and went and got it and brough it home. He called apologized and got pissed at me for taking it. I brought it back, he blew it up, and 7 months later... here we are.

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Five months late, but better late than never. Good luck through this ordeal =)
Probably gonna need it.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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man thanks for sharing this info because I was told stuff about him and I ignored it but now I see what you been through I will never go to that place.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KWezzy
man thanks for sharing this info because I was told stuff about him and I ignored it but now I see what you been through I will never go to that place.
In his defense, I think he's a great tuner, he just takes on too much at once. I somehow got thrown on the back burner and no one ever seems to remember that I exist.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 05ah8james
In his defense, I think he's a great tuner, he just takes on too much at once. I somehow got thrown on the back burner and no one ever seems to remember that I exist.
The thing is though thats not your problem. you payed your money and you deserve to be treated and respected as a great customer, it doesn't matter how good of a tuner he is if he can't even do his job completely and neglects his customer. shoot, he shouldn't take on so many jobs and the ignoring stuff is no excuse, it would take him ten seconds to explain himself and say man sorry I can't get to your car.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Wait you paid $1500 to repair the car? i wouldent drop 1 dime if he blew my motor.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WolfsFang
Wait you paid $1500 to repair the car? i wouldent drop 1 dime if he blew my motor.
please tell me how a blown headgasket is the tuners fault when all he did was tune the car?
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KWezzy
The thing is though thats not your problem. you payed your money and you deserve to be treated and respected as a great customer, it doesn't matter how good of a tuner he is if he can't even do his job completely and neglects his customer. shoot, he shouldn't take on so many jobs and the ignoring stuff is no excuse, it would take him ten seconds to explain himself and say man sorry I can't get to your car.
Well put.

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Wait you paid $1500 to repair the car? i wouldent drop 1 dime if he blew my motor.
He blew it up and blamed it on me basically. He said headstuds weren't torqued to spec. I paid him $1200 to pull/reinstall the motor, $500 in machine shop fees, and I paid the $600+ to get new pistons that he suggest I replace.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mrevo331
please tell me how a blown headgasket is the tuners fault when all he did was tune the car?
Wow Really? Are you the shop or the tuner?
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mrevo331
please tell me how a blown headgasket is the tuners fault when all he did was tune the car?

If the tuner is the one who blew the headgasket?? Because tuners can't ef up and blow a head gasket during the tuning process.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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I hate seeing things like this, 2 shops this year screwed me and my friend, they screewed my buddy on his build. The shop quoted him a price then he went to pick up and the price went up over 2k and his ran like a POS, and my car a shop ****ed up my motor and tried to cover it up and gave me the car back and when trying to get a hold of the owner he was never in or never at work... Then the shop closed down.

I recommend just sue him and get on ur way. There are so many shops out there that get away with stuff like this, make an example of him


cheers

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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It sucks man. I had dreams of the car making 600+ awhp, and I believe my setup should make that and then some. Now I just want it back, even if its in pieces. Even that seems out of reach at times
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