what brand motor oil/filter are you using?
Mobil 1 10W-30 with OEM filters (and sometimes K&N if my dealer is taking too long), changed every 3-4 months depending on mileage. I don't drive much (less than 4K every year, since we have 4 cars and I live about 5 minutes from work) but I don't want to do one oil change a year, so I do it based on time rather than mileage.
Since nobody felt like searching the topic before hand, i'll chime in with actual information on filtration, housing and spring design...... All provided with a quick search, awesome!
Here is technical data and input to support why I use Amsoil filters.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...il-filter.html
Here is technical data and input to support why I use Amsoil filters.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...il-filter.html
Not me.... My Order of preference for filters is AMSOIL.... there is not a better filter on the market., WIX, Mobil 1, and then I would go to a Pure 1..
This is based both on Filter Capture Efficiency and construction combined... with a give and take...
The Mobil 1 has a good Micron Rating but, has a stamped steel bypass spring so I rate it behind the WIX due to construction..
Doc
This is based both on Filter Capture Efficiency and construction combined... with a give and take...
The Mobil 1 has a good Micron Rating but, has a stamped steel bypass spring so I rate it behind the WIX due to construction..
Doc
I cut open a mitsu oil filter a few weeks ago. They are really cheap looking inside. Purolator looks 10X better to me.
I know a lot of people are going to flip out about this, but.... there's way too much emphasis on oil filters IMO. As crappy as frams are, I used them for 160k miles in my dsm and then switched to Purolator. At 250k I had the oil pan off and looked at the main bearings- they looked like brand new. This is with 3500 mi oil changes. IMO as long as the filter doesn't implode or explode, even the cheap crappy filter media is good enough from what I've seen for normal highway use and normal change intervals
I know a lot of people are going to flip out about this, but.... there's way too much emphasis on oil filters IMO. As crappy as frams are, I used them for 160k miles in my dsm and then switched to Purolator. At 250k I had the oil pan off and looked at the main bearings- they looked like brand new. This is with 3500 mi oil changes. IMO as long as the filter doesn't implode or explode, even the cheap crappy filter media is good enough from what I've seen for normal highway use and normal change intervals
I will agree with you on the Mits Filter...
Not so much on the reason to run a quality filter... I have seen Fram filter implode and cause puked engines and I have seen holes in the media of Frams close to 1/8 of an inch.
I have also seen filter cans seperate from the Base Plate and have seen filter rot off or the cans are so thin that they crush with minimal force when you are trying to take them off.. This goes to the quality of construction and materials used.
I have been inside of many engines and have never seen bearings that look "new" except for a couple that let loose with only a few miles on them. They can look good but will usually have scuff marks and scratches in them. The scratches are from particulate. Even if they looked good, if you didn't Plast-Guage them, they could have been sanded.
Filters are rated for Micron and Flow among other things and for what we are talking about in this instance, we will concentrate on Micron Ratings...
The human eye can see to approximately 40 Micron, so we are talking some pretty small particle here. A Fram will have a Nominal Micron Rating around 33-40 depending on the filter.. A WIX for the Evo has a Micron Rating of 19... These are Nominal Ratings (50%) In Comparison, the AMSOIL EA Series is the Best filter you can buy, conservatively rated at 15 Micron Absolute.
Now, for where this is going..... 65% of wear caused by dirt in an engine, is caused by Particles in the 5-25 Micron range..
250K is nothing on a well maintained engine... I have 345,000 miles on my very abused work van with 25,000-35,000 mile oil changes using AMSOIL and AMSOIL Filters..
Doc
Not so much on the reason to run a quality filter... I have seen Fram filter implode and cause puked engines and I have seen holes in the media of Frams close to 1/8 of an inch.
I have also seen filter cans seperate from the Base Plate and have seen filter rot off or the cans are so thin that they crush with minimal force when you are trying to take them off.. This goes to the quality of construction and materials used.
I have been inside of many engines and have never seen bearings that look "new" except for a couple that let loose with only a few miles on them. They can look good but will usually have scuff marks and scratches in them. The scratches are from particulate. Even if they looked good, if you didn't Plast-Guage them, they could have been sanded.
Filters are rated for Micron and Flow among other things and for what we are talking about in this instance, we will concentrate on Micron Ratings...
The human eye can see to approximately 40 Micron, so we are talking some pretty small particle here. A Fram will have a Nominal Micron Rating around 33-40 depending on the filter.. A WIX for the Evo has a Micron Rating of 19... These are Nominal Ratings (50%) In Comparison, the AMSOIL EA Series is the Best filter you can buy, conservatively rated at 15 Micron Absolute.
Now, for where this is going..... 65% of wear caused by dirt in an engine, is caused by Particles in the 5-25 Micron range..
250K is nothing on a well maintained engine... I have 345,000 miles on my very abused work van with 25,000-35,000 mile oil changes using AMSOIL and AMSOIL Filters..
Doc
Bias ? Maybe, but if I thought Mobil 1 or any other Product was better, I'd sell it...
I always say that Mobil 1 EP is a very good product and if AMSOIL was not available, that is what I would use. As far as the Mobil 1 Filter, it is a good filter, but personally I give it a lower rating than the WIX due to construction,materials used... No other filter competes with the AMSOIL EA Series, it IS the Best filter you can buy, bar none.
An auto parts store can carry AMSOIL if they so choose, I have many along with Auto Dealerships and MotorCycle Shops, there are some restrictions/requirements.
Why you would want to pay Retail prices, I don't know. A phone call and product delivered on your doorstep seems more convenient, less time consuming and less costly than the Retail store.
Going Public ? AMSOIL is a Dealer Based company and there are no plans that I am aware of to be anything else. As for my understanding, it is in Al's Will that the company is to remain that way for a fairly long time after he passes.
How would you feel if you were a Dealer and AMSOIL said, We are going into Retail Stores Direct and all 80,000 + of you Dealers are out of business today...??
One of the things that I like about the company is that they always look out for the Dealer...
Several years ago, AMSOIL received a call from Wal-Mart. The conversation went a little like this..... This is Wal-Mart and we would like to put your Products in our Stores, (AMS) Great ! We will give you the contact of a Dealer in your area.. (WM) This is Wal-Mart, we only buy Direct. (AMS) This is AMSOIL and we only sell through Dealers...
The Estimated first order for Wal-Mart was over $40 Million... They said no to protect the Dealers that built the company...
Doc
I always say that Mobil 1 EP is a very good product and if AMSOIL was not available, that is what I would use. As far as the Mobil 1 Filter, it is a good filter, but personally I give it a lower rating than the WIX due to construction,materials used... No other filter competes with the AMSOIL EA Series, it IS the Best filter you can buy, bar none.
An auto parts store can carry AMSOIL if they so choose, I have many along with Auto Dealerships and MotorCycle Shops, there are some restrictions/requirements.
Why you would want to pay Retail prices, I don't know. A phone call and product delivered on your doorstep seems more convenient, less time consuming and less costly than the Retail store.
Going Public ? AMSOIL is a Dealer Based company and there are no plans that I am aware of to be anything else. As for my understanding, it is in Al's Will that the company is to remain that way for a fairly long time after he passes.
How would you feel if you were a Dealer and AMSOIL said, We are going into Retail Stores Direct and all 80,000 + of you Dealers are out of business today...??
One of the things that I like about the company is that they always look out for the Dealer...
Several years ago, AMSOIL received a call from Wal-Mart. The conversation went a little like this..... This is Wal-Mart and we would like to put your Products in our Stores, (AMS) Great ! We will give you the contact of a Dealer in your area.. (WM) This is Wal-Mart, we only buy Direct. (AMS) This is AMSOIL and we only sell through Dealers...
The Estimated first order for Wal-Mart was over $40 Million... They said no to protect the Dealers that built the company...
Doc
Since nobody felt like searching the topic before hand, i'll chime in with actual information on filtration, housing and spring design...... All provided with a quick search, awesome!
Here is technical data and input to support why I use Amsoil filters.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...il-filter.html
Here is technical data and input to support why I use Amsoil filters.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...il-filter.html
