im just wondering do i have any fellow drifters around here? this car is such an excellent platform for it. Drifts are smooth and precise i have been very happy with the cars ability thus far to drift. Prior to this i was drifting a 83 280zx turbo.... it was just plain scary drifting yet i just couldnt say no! well anyway if there are any drifters

 

hard to drift a 4wd car, 235 tires dont help either

 

For a AWD platform, the Evo is quite good at drifting. You might not think so, but it is. Most guys here aren't into it...yet. Personally, I love it. If I had to choose a car to use as a drift car, I'd probably rather have a 350Z. That thing was so stable and predictable.

 

yeah some reason ppl here in the states are so quick to judge somthing they know nothing about..... drifting is just a different style of driving... some people just cant accept that and have to insult it without cause...

 

yes drifting is great in the evo, but you need quite alot of power to do it right (i can do it right ). i drift on a team called PHANTOM DRIFT. you will most likely be seeing us at import shows or exhibitions this upcoming spring.

 

1) Yes drifting is a driving form that enjoys the company of other driving forms of the same sex. Makes alot of sense DynoKing. And every drifter I see is slow too. (Sarcasm Sarcasm Sarcasm)

2) So... 100+ videos of drifting on the forum. 1 posted where there is a crash. And all of a sudden every drifter will do that. heh yeah

Edit: There are alot of people that drive like dumbasses. However, I share the same affinity for sliding that others here do, not because I want to look like a jackass but because its fun. I want to slide around a corner because its a thrill, not because I think it will give me the fastest lap time. For that you need a mix of the driving styles

 

Here is why I do not like drifting..

I'll bet you a beer the next time you're in DFW that the first time the SCCA has any real turnout for one of these events, they end up having to deal with an overabundance of parking lot burnouts and e-brake slides and it turns into a "Why you gotta be a hatah?" scene.


1) Drifting takes skill
2) Drifting is fun
3) Drifting is not the fast way to drive
4) Drifting should not cut into my track time
5) The predominant adopters of the "drifting scene" are kidz with no respect for safety on the street.

Go spend an afternoon searching the import boards for the term "drift" and ask yourself if those kids are ready for the track.

 

Gah I didn't ever try to say that it was cool. I just said I have fun doing it. I don't think that these kids should be on the track when they don't know what the hell they are doing. That's why I stay off until I do driving schools (empty parking lots for me) (see that I respect the safety of the street) What it really boils down to - jackasses that waste your track time. But don't think that drifting is so worthless just because of them. If we always went off of worst examples of everything as icons of the action, I would hate every possible act in the world. I don't take your track time, I respect the street, I recognize my abilities, and I just want to have some fun sliding around empty parking lots. If you find anything wrong with anything I do right there, you should rethink something in those ideals.

 

I agree bobaab. I wish it was easier to get into a driving school. Well at least cheaper since I'm so f'in broke. Parking lots are the best option so far, but still kind of illegal sometimes (private property of businesses and all). Yeah and DynoKing there are alot of jackasses out there (not just in drifting either). Safety first. Say what you want, but it's my motto when I do stuff like this.

Peace

 

you can actually use the "drifting technique" to improve lap times in some cases if you do it properly and don't go over kill. but if your drifting around every corner then most likely that will definatly slow you down. all depends on the track, weather conditions, and how powerful your car is.

 

I am no pro but I have done over 30 track days and never have seen where it will be any faster then going straight, where have you seen it's faster? What track and what turn?

 

Drifting is a sport that has been big in Japan for a long time. The reason it hasn't caught on in the states is because there aren't many skilled drivers here. It's a proven fact that American drivers don't have the same respect for cars as people of other countries and I'm no exception to that statement. I consider myself to be a good driver, I do it for a living. But, I've seen drifters do stuff with cars that leave me scratching my head im amazement.
An good example: I saw a driver at an exabition earlier this year that amazed me. He was driving a real nice 240SX. They had part of a parking lot blocked offfor the event. Anyway, he's doing his thing sliding around the lot sideways and doing donuts and figure 8's which didn't impress me that much but, then he aims this beautiful 240 straight at a light post. I thought he lost it or something but, right before you think he's going to hit it he flicks the wheel and burps the throttle and procedes to spin that car around the light pole 3 times with his right front wheel no more than 6 inches away from the concrete at the bottom then pulls out never taking his foot off the gas. Now that's skill by anyone standards.

 

Okay that sounds cool but I am still going with lap times. It does take some skill to do that but I guess I am still not a fan of it because most of the fans of it are dumbass kids and then they try this **** at home, kinda like that video that vivid did with the people drifting. To each there own. I still think someone who can click off fast lap times has more skill then someone who can slide a car around a pole.

 

I wasn't trying to convert anyone, just trying to make a point. I'm not a huge fan of the sport either, but someone said it didn't take any skill and that is not true at all. It takes alot of skill to deliberatly put your car into a slide with nothing but walls around and not hit anything. What doesn't take skill is sliding your car to a stop on a public road and call it drifting.

 

In drifting, the cars are going around the corners much more slowly than they are capable of going. That gives them a large margin for error. A car getting sideways on a roadcourse because you're trying to go around the corner faster than it's capable of going is much different--you don't have the luxury of being at 1/2 speed. Every time a car spins on a roadcourse isn't because of the driver's lack of "Mad Drifting Skilz." While some practice at that may help to some extent, don't think because a good drifter can get sideways all day while impressing the judges means he wouldn't lose it on a roadcourse (while trying to go fast).

Secondly, a car getting sideways because of a mistake or simply going to fast for the corner on a roadcourse can come up unexpectedly. That's a whole different ball of wax than when you induce the "drift" on purpose from the get-go. I can take a pretty good punch in the stomach if I know it's coming....

Third, the cars are not set up to be fast and R compound tires are not used. A car without much grip on very non-sticky tires is much easier to control when it steps out of line than a car with higher limits on sticky tires--things happen much faster then. Add into that the fact the car is going much more slowly than it could be and you can color me unimpressed.

Remember, that's just one small portion of all the car control skills required to be fast.

I submit that autocrossing does a much better job of teaching overall car control skills that can be transferred to getting around a roadcourse quickly than drifting could ever dream of doing. While I won't say it doesn't help at all, aside from an occasional practice any time spent trying to impress judges while not trying to go fast would be better spent autocrossing.