Who here would like to see Vishnu vs DynoFlash in Sport Compact Car?
Originally posted by ajn507
Even if Al has his own tuner shootout in the Spring who is to say whether Shiv or anyone else will show?
Shiv, do you plan to attend if such an event is held?
I agree that there should be a limit in how much money could be spent, what fuel is used, and what tires are run. This would allow the customers to be able to make the best decisions on what to buy. Afterall this is all about providing the customer w/ the best possible product in terms of perfomance and value. The problem w/ this is Al already has spent some serious coin on his car. So the event would have to be set up as an all out event--- unlimited---
Alan
Even if Al has his own tuner shootout in the Spring who is to say whether Shiv or anyone else will show?
Shiv, do you plan to attend if such an event is held?
I agree that there should be a limit in how much money could be spent, what fuel is used, and what tires are run. This would allow the customers to be able to make the best decisions on what to buy. Afterall this is all about providing the customer w/ the best possible product in terms of perfomance and value. The problem w/ this is Al already has spent some serious coin on his car. So the event would have to be set up as an all out event--- unlimited---
Alan
BTW - did any of you guys hear about "apeaking softly and carrying a big stick?"" (I know its not me) - But - think of this - Shive is going to get his *** kicked this year at the shootout - it seems the RRE car is making over 500 whp and the Pruven Evo is a mad monster which defies description - - The Pruven evo is going to be so much faster than Shiv's that he will need R compounds and rockets to get within 10 cars
Anyway - I will be posting more about the OPEN Tuner Shootout in the next copule of weeks - it should be an intersting event - I knwo I will loose but it will be fun and we can learn something in the process
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That is good but what happened to Al racing Shiv, door to door, man to man on a track?
Al is ALL talk and NO Action
Al is ALL talk and NO Action
Originally posted by silverEVO8
That's an excellent idea. The very same car should be used by all tuners with inpartial observers to make sure that the first tuner does not inadvertently sabotage the car for the second guy.
The car could be base line dynoed before and after each tuning session to make sure everybody has the same material to work from. Then they could each tune the car using predetermined mods or methods to make sure that no undue advantage is used by one ort the other. That would show definitely whose methods are the best. Anytrhing else is just talk and BS.....
That's an excellent idea. The very same car should be used by all tuners with inpartial observers to make sure that the first tuner does not inadvertently sabotage the car for the second guy.
The car could be base line dynoed before and after each tuning session to make sure everybody has the same material to work from. Then they could each tune the car using predetermined mods or methods to make sure that no undue advantage is used by one ort the other. That would show definitely whose methods are the best. Anytrhing else is just talk and BS.....
Re: Tuner Shootout
Originally posted by Yellow EVO 2003
Sorry Al,
I forgot that you made runs the same night without nitrous. *(By the way, how come nitrous only helps .12 secs? )
All of you have different approaches. Why not have everyone with some reasonable fuel limitations, maybe even even supply the same 94 octane fuel to each competitor and require a stock turbo, and any add on mods or limit the amount of money that can be spent to something less than $5000. I just would like to see "tuner" comparisons rather than who has spent the most money. Anybody can build a bad car with an unlimited budget
Sorry Al,
I forgot that you made runs the same night without nitrous. *(By the way, how come nitrous only helps .12 secs? )
All of you have different approaches. Why not have everyone with some reasonable fuel limitations, maybe even even supply the same 94 octane fuel to each competitor and require a stock turbo, and any add on mods or limit the amount of money that can be spent to something less than $5000. I just would like to see "tuner" comparisons rather than who has spent the most money. Anybody can build a bad car with an unlimited budget
In my NOS run - I was poised to get into the high 120's and a low 11.3 or 4 time when it started breaking up in 4th
I simply retuned it - pulled out the NOS bottles and did a conservative non nos pass at 24 psi to get the 11.623
After that I was thrown off the track
Hopefully as soon as the AEM ignition fix is made I will be back to the track to break some more records
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Originally posted by DynoFlash
BTW - did any of you guys hear about "apeaking softly and carrying a big stick?"" (I know its not me) - But - think of this - Shive is going to get his *** kicked this year at the shootout - it seems the RRE car is making over 500 whp and the Pruven Evo is a mad monster which defies description - - The Pruven evo is going to be so much faster than Shiv's that he will need R compounds and rockets to get within 10 cars
BTW - did any of you guys hear about "apeaking softly and carrying a big stick?"" (I know its not me) - But - think of this - Shive is going to get his *** kicked this year at the shootout - it seems the RRE car is making over 500 whp and the Pruven Evo is a mad monster which defies description - - The Pruven evo is going to be so much faster than Shiv's that he will need R compounds and rockets to get within 10 cars
Cheers
shiv
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Al enough of the ****. Are you going to race Shiv or not man? Stop *****ing and answer the question? I think your scared man. And the funny thing is ALL the people going to pay for this are Vishnu customers.
Big Al, All talk and NO action
Big Al, All talk and NO action
Originally posted by DynoKing
That is good but what happened to Al racing Shiv, door to door, man to man on a track?
Al is ALL talk and NO Action
That is good but what happened to Al racing Shiv, door to door, man to man on a track?
Al is ALL talk and NO Action
And a phantom Al who is the quickest Evo 8 for the past 6 months eh?
And a double Phantom Al who came in 2nd place at the DSM shoout out
And a tripple Phantom Al who's evo was featured in Modified Magazine and Turbo magazine??
I think I have done enough for one year
WHAT have you done - other than get kicked of this forum under three screen names already and screw up your exede install ?
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I have not done **** with evo's but drive mine, I make nothing, I sell nothing, and I don't want to. Al I did not say anything about you 1/4 Bull****. Are you going to race Shiv or not man. Answer the question?
Al, 1/4 mile king but scared to race Shiv .
Al, 1/4 mile king but scared to race Shiv .
Originally posted by DynoFlash
I am all talk eh?? I guess that was a phantom Al down there in Atlanta looking for you to teach you a few ecu tricks eh?
And a phantom Al who is the quickest Evo 8 for the past 6 months eh?
And a double Phantom Al who came in 2nd place at the DSM shoout out
And a tripple Phantom Al who's evo was featured in Modified Magazine and Turbo magazine??
I think I have done enough for one year
WHAT have you done - other than get kicked of this forum under three screen names already and screw up your exede install ?
I am all talk eh?? I guess that was a phantom Al down there in Atlanta looking for you to teach you a few ecu tricks eh?
And a phantom Al who is the quickest Evo 8 for the past 6 months eh?
And a double Phantom Al who came in 2nd place at the DSM shoout out
And a tripple Phantom Al who's evo was featured in Modified Magazine and Turbo magazine??
I think I have done enough for one year
WHAT have you done - other than get kicked of this forum under three screen names already and screw up your exede install ?
Originally posted by shiv@vishnu
Honestly Al, we'd find it a lot more satisfying losing to the likes of RRE and Pruven than beating you
Cheers
shiv
Honestly Al, we'd find it a lot more satisfying losing to the likes of RRE and Pruven than beating you
Cheers
shiv
Its seems to be a fixation of yours to try and point out how little power I make and how slow I am - - - if that were the case . . . . how come you're still so slow? Whats up with that ???????
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How about this Al, I will fly you out 1st class and ship your can, pay for ALL you room and board and rent the ****ing track? You going to race Shiv now? I will spend the ****ing 10k for this. Put up or shut up big man.
Originally posted by DynoFlash
ONLY problem is that you didnt beat me yet - ole slow poke !
Its seems to be a fixation of yours to try and point out how little power I make and how slow I am - - - if that were the case . . . . how come you're still so slow? Whats up with that ???????
ONLY problem is that you didnt beat me yet - ole slow poke !
Its seems to be a fixation of yours to try and point out how little power I make and how slow I am - - - if that were the case . . . . how come you're still so slow? Whats up with that ???????
Originally posted by shiv@vishnu
Easy there, Al.
deep breathe and.... relax
Easy there, Al.
deep breathe and.... relax
BTW - did you have that defuser on your car when you recently went to the track to try and beat my times?? Works good eh?
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Originally posted by DynoKing
How about this Al, I will fly you out 1st class and ship your can, pay for ALL you room and board and rent the ****ing track? You going to race Shiv now? I will spend the ****ing 10k for this. Put up or shut up big man.
How about this Al, I will fly you out 1st class and ship your can, pay for ALL you room and board and rent the ****ing track? You going to race Shiv now? I will spend the ****ing 10k for this. Put up or shut up big man.
I'll run a stock Miata if Al makes it a part of the rules. 
Last edited by shiv@vishnu; Jan 3, 2004 at 08:55 PM.
Does any of this remind you guys of the Muhammad Ali boxing grudges that I remember from when I was a kid?
Well, this is what all competition is about, hopefully in the end, what is learned will benefit us all.
Well, this is what all competition is about, hopefully in the end, what is learned will benefit us all.