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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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Friend driving = blown motor?

I had a high powered stock block EVO 9, that I daily and has proven its durability time and time again. Alright well long story short a socalled friend also a member of this forum, who basically has broken both his cars one being an EVO from relentlessly beating on them. He and I went to a local meet and since im new to the area as well as i thought I was doing him a favor cuz I knew he missed driving a fast car especially his EVO I let him drive. Once there people instigate to get me to race I don't give in cuz I Dnt care to for a lot of reasons. We take off with some guys that were roll racing, he gets excited n true to bait a vette, that doesn't really take. Once they pull over he proceeds to hit people up to race him in my car without my permission. Which he succeeds, during this run he does the one thing I've warned him several times NEVER to do in my car, low rpm high load the car in 4th gear or higher. Before I know it he does so in fifth gear and roughly 5-5500 rpm boom, the motor goes. Immediately I knew why, which is why the motor was holding till this point, I never floored the car in fifth gear, ever.

Now on his end he repeatedly told me how he felt bad. N helped me load the car on a tow truck and unload it at my house. He even admitted by text it was his fault.

So this is when I start to get a lil peeved, not once did he attempt to pay for either tow of the car, since it ended up towing it again to a shop. Or helping to pay for "any" part of the rebuild. The only help he offered was to give me a "good" price to do the labor portion of the build, ironically he has not successfully assembled a car let alone an EVO before.

During this whole time he confides with me about his finances and that's how I find out the whole time he had over 4k cash in his pocket, including the night the motor went.

Eventually I flip, so I decide f it, obviously he's not my friend so Im gonna try to get him to pay something. Of course he declines. So as I see it he's made an enemy out of me.

Since most of u if not all drive evos how would u feel in my position?
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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small claims court ...save the text
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcmill3
I had a high powered stock block EVO 9, that I daily and has proven its durability time and time again. Alright well long story short a socalled friend also a member of this forum, who basically has broken both his cars one being an EVO from relentlessly beating on them. He and I went to a local meet and since im new to the area as well as i thought I was doing him a favor cuz I knew he missed driving a fast car especially his EVO I let him drive. Once there people instigate to get me to race I don't give in cuz I Dnt care to for a lot of reasons. We take off with some guys that were roll racing, he gets excited n true to bait a vette, that doesn't really take. Once they pull over he proceeds to hit people up to race him in my car without my permission. Which he succeeds, during this run he does the one thing I've warned him several times NEVER to do in my car, low rpm high load the car in 4th gear or higher. Before I know it he does so in fifth gear and roughly 5-5500 rpm boom, the motor goes. Immediately I knew why, which is why the motor was holding till this point, I never floored the car in fifth gear, ever.
I highlighted all the key points of your post. Rule #1 of my Evo. No one drives it. The only people that have driven my car are me and CBRD. I cringe when someone has to pull it into a bay when I go for inspection or alignments.

Chalk this one up as a learning experience, get it back on the road, and never let it happen again.

On another note, I highly doubt the motor went because he rolled into a high gear with a load on the motor. Probably was just crappy timing, and running it hard that night put it over the edge. At least if you were driving, you wouldn't have anyone else to blame but yourself.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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I would've flipped the moment he started looking to race people and taken the keys. He knew what he was doing, and saw you weren't going to stop him.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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I would've flipped the moment he started looking to race people and taken the keys. He knew what he was doing, and saw you weren't going to stop him.
+1
Kind of your fault, you let it get that far.
You had ample time to say (NO) and take the keys away.
You should share half the blame.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Wow....Thats messed up. I dont let any of my friends drive my car expect two friends. They dont beat on it because its not theirs and when i drove their evo/s2k, i dont beat on it because its not mine.

Damm some people are out of their mine.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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yea nobody drives my car but me and the guy who tunes it and even that is seldom. I always say if its going to pop i want to be the one driving when it does. if he admitted to it being his fault then it would be nice for him to help you out but i dont know if there are any legal actions you could really take becuase i would think courts would look at the car and the circumstances and say its your fault. good luck tho
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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Your fault for letting him use your car to race people should have told him to pull over and get out of the car.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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when any friend of mine borrows my car , before he goes of i always look at him in the eyes , relly good and tell him , you break it , you buy it. GET IT ? thats the only rule i have.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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I've been through stuff like this before. I obviously acknowledge my part in this. Personally I would never let a friend go through something like that on his /her own.

A real friend wouldn't do that.

I'm not a kid by any means I'm in my 30s married with 3 kids. I've only known this guy for a few months since i just moved here.

Bottomline I'm not "completely" blaming him, but I'm very confident it wouldn't have happened if I was driving.

Honestly my feelings towards him would be night and day diff had he offered to pay for anything.

To add to insult, I have a civic that previously he asked to borrow, didn't have the best clutch but it worked. After letting him use it he eventually tells me how he tried to race his friend in it. Ironically clutch doesn't work so well when I get it back. I go out of town, he asks to house sit for me.. which I Dnt need, but out of generosity I let him. I was away for 2 weeks, he finishes off the clutch in that car.

So the EVO was the second car in this sequence that he didnt contribute financially to fix.

That left me and my family with no vehicle to get to work or school for the wife.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Lesson learned i hope....
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Bro the problem is your Car not him, 5500rpm on fifth gear is not consider high load if you floor it.
2000 to 3000 rpm is more like a problem if you floor it at 5th.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcmill3
I've been through stuff like this before. I obviously acknowledge my part in this. Personally I would never let a friend go through something like that on his /her own.

A real friend wouldn't do that.

I'm not a kid by any means I'm in my 30s married with 3 kids. I've only known this guy for a few months since i just moved here.

Bottomline I'm not "completely" blaming him, but I'm very confident it wouldn't have happened if I was driving.

Honestly my feelings towards him would be night and day diff had he offered to pay for anything.

To add to insult, I have a civic that previously he asked to borrow, didn't have the best clutch but it worked. After letting him use it he eventually tells me how he tried to race his friend in it. Ironically clutch doesn't work so well when I get it back. I go out of town, he asks to house sit for me.. which I Dnt need, but out of generosity I let him. I was away for 2 weeks, he finishes off the clutch in that car.

So the EVO was the second car in this sequence that he didnt contribute financially to fix.

That left me and my family with no vehicle to get to work or school for the wife.
I didn't think there were people like you left in this world, very warm hearted, honest and naive enough to take advantage of. I have maybe 3 friends like that but their educated enough with real world experience to take everything with a grain of salt. None of them would be that open and giving with someone they just met months ago. Only one of them I have known less than 12 yrs, they are the only ones that will ever drive my cars besides my wife and I.

Your very trusting and naive buddy and in this world that will do nothing but bring you headaches and heartaches. Take this as a learning experience and move on. Maybe next time you will be a little more resistant towards other peoples influence and sob stories.

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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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I think this thread plus this one - > https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ock-block.html explains why you're car blew. I don't think it's your friends fault at all.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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dam that sux to hear , anytime my friend ask to drive my car i answer them sure just leave me a 3k deposit , ( u should see the look in there face) . hope you learned from this , dont let anyone but your self race your car ,,



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