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Old Apr 12, 2012, 03:17 AM
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Is E85 worth it.

With current mods and tune i made 460hp/330tq on 93 pump gas.
Mods include
62/66 precision ball bearing turbo
custom manifold
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ams fuel rail
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aeromotive 330 lph fuel pump
fuel lab fuel regulator
bosch 1000cc injectors
ets fmic
aem series 1
tial bov
tial wastegate w/ open dump
torque solution motor mounts
kelford 272 cams
revolver valve springs
hks timing belt

Talking to my tuner he mentioned that if i were to go e85 i would need bigger injectors to make the same amount of power. What would be the benefits of getting said injectors and switching to e85
Old Apr 12, 2012, 03:24 AM
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Uhhh.. I would think so..

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Old Apr 12, 2012, 07:04 AM
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Going E85 is definitely great for power, I think they key thing you'll need to consider is availability. The ONLY reason why I haven't done it yet is because it's a pretty inconvenient trek to get E85...although it is available, I just can't justify it...yet.
Old Apr 12, 2012, 08:27 AM
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Why would you even ask that Just messing, but hell yes its worth it, almost like a whole new car (;
Old Apr 12, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Running 120+ octane race gas at pump gas prices, who would want to do that. On my stock turbo I picked up about 100hp over CA91. CA91 == 360whp, E85 == 460whp. My car gets about 20mpg on the highway, and 16mpg in city mode, mixed is about 18mpg. My brother on his STI gets about 16mpg, but he drives like an *******.

So to sum it all up, if you have it available and dont mind storning 55 gallons of it in the garage, then it is 100% worth it. If it is going to cause you to much headache then go meth injection.

My car on Meth Injection made 400/400 the stock turbo and stock cams, CA91 + 50/50 WM.

Just my .02.

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Old Apr 12, 2012, 09:59 AM
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With your turbo setup, I would say HELL YES.
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Originally Posted by TheBoz
Running 120+ octane race gas at pump gas prices, who would want to do that. On my stock turbo I picked up about 100hp over CA91. CA91 == 360whp, E85 == 460whp. My car gets about 20mpg on the highway, and 16mpg in city mode, mixed is about 18mpg. My brother on his STI gets about 16mpg, but he drives like an *******.

So to sum it all up, if you have it available and dont mind storning 55 gallons of it in the garage, then it is 100% worth it. If it is going to cause you to much headache then go meth injection.

Just my .02.
Doesn't it degrade when you stock high octane for awhile?
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YES! I gained almost a 100hp on E85. If its available to you why not the only downfall will be gas mileage, but it's not very much if you look at prices of pump gas.


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its worth it i couldnt b happier with e85
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Originally Posted by cz1
Doesn't it degrade when you stock high octane for awhile?
Depends on how you store the fuel. I use about 55gallons every 1.5 months. I do not see any issues with the fuel during that length of time. If you are going to use 55 gallons over the course of a year, I would say buy it in 10 gallon increments.

Ethanol sealed correctly will not absorb water and can stay good for a very long time.
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I also heard that they change the ingredients in e85 so you have to retune your car every 4 months to be safe.
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Originally Posted by cz1
I also heard that they change the ingredients in e85 so you have to retune your car every 4 months to be safe.
Nope, you are wrong.

E85 is Ethanol 100%/200 proof, blended with Gas. If the Ethanol has to much water in it the gas will not mix correctly. There for after the Ethanol is distilled it is around 95% pure, to pull the remaining 5% water from the ethanol it is dried using a molecular sieve. You then have your 100% Pure Ethanol.

That ethanol is then blended with Gas to create E85. Now different zones in the US have different blend ratios for different seasons. So in CA we have the same blend all the time about e85-e90. Back east you can see e65-e90. in the winter months where it is really cold, it is easier for Gas to start then Ethanol, which is why the blend changes.
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From when I tuned on e75 to filling up with e85 now I only changed like maybe from 12.1 to 12.3 afr at wot, so it's not that huge where u would have to retune unless u are like on the ragged edge with ur tune.
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I gained 60whp and 70wtq switching from pump to E85. Stock turbo.

91oct - $3.90/gallon
E85 - $3.09/gallon

Way worth it for me.
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Yes, make the change if it's convinient. Simple answer, easy, clean power.


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