I was actually on the same boat thinking about trading in my 8 for an X.. Yesterday I drove my friend X, and it seems very sluggish and slow. It felt very soft but at the same time it was very comfortable. He drove my 8 with alot of mods and he loved my car so much he was saying he wants to trade! (kidding). Personally find a friend who drives a X and drive each other cars and see whats each other opinion and go from there.

Maybe I'll keep my 8, put alot of time/mod in the car, hard to move on from it.

 

Just because you had a failure due to rust doesn't mean they're plagued with failures. I've had zero ACD pump issues in the cars I've owned.

 

Yeah I'd test drive a X before you make the decision. I have an IX and I was just curious one day and went for a test drive in a X. Never trading in my IX.

 

Not sure if you've seen this thread. I'd say its an issue. I don' think I'm in the minority. Do you live in an area with winter/snow/salt?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...e-reports.html

 

That thread is all X's. Add one for VIII's/IX's....I've been hearing about this more on the VIII's/IX's but everytime I ask for folks to point out a thread where it happened poof overnight I'm yet to see one.

 

First, I don't drive a X. Second, that thread is give or take 18 months old. How many X's have been sold? There really aren't that many failures reported in that thread in the past year and a half to even consider saying (with a straight face) that the majority of them fail.

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/535635-acd-problem-all-3-lights.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=558398&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=609743&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=576094&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=428951&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=650021&page=3&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=668771&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=421845&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=599238&page=3&styleid=27

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/showthread.php?t=655162&page=17&styleid=27

I could keep going but I am sure you get the point. There was like infinite pages on Google of links for acd issues.

 

There's actually an entire cottage industry that has popped up of people making pump rebuild kits and who rebuild the pumps too. Shoot, I even rebuild pumps for people to make money on the side. The only reason the issue is more pronounced in Evo 8 & 9 models currently is because they are older then the X's out there. Which makes logical sense..... The pump design is the same between the two models, with the same flawed pump body that allows moisture in and once it starts corroding the pump plate will clog and you're all done. The X pump does have an additional solenoid though to control the ayc but that is the only real difference between the pumps. Give it time, all the X pumps will start going soon enough too.

 

Uh......huh? Did you actually read anything in that thread? Pump failures in that thread alone have been happening for at least 2 years up to now. That's only one of MANY threads here and on other forums with people having pump failures.

 

Uh......yeah I read the thread. What percentage of X's have actually had pump failures? I'd guess 10% max. That's my point. Someone in this very thread said that the majority of them fail.

.........And same thing with the VIII and IX- I'm sure the failure percentage is very low overall. Add to that the fact that I don't drive in salt and I never will, so I'd place a very large bet that I won't be running into that issue. Thanks for your concern and for your extremely insightful post.

 

I'm sorry that you don't know much about anything outside your bubble of existence. This is chronic problem that has plagued way more than 10% of evo/RAs. There are shops that make guards specifically for the pump and specialize in rebuilding them as well as petitions to Mitsu regarding this issue. I know reading isn't your strong suit, but try clicking a link or two below and you might learn something...

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-flashing.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/to...p-failure.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ould-i-do.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ue-solved.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...pump-help.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...mp-repair.html
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...highlight=pump
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58221
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=181049
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87010
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=147090
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64459
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=177833
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67570
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93954
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59818
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63277
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61382
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=166826
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=178121
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=156721

 

Alright microphallus, it was a number I pulled out of the air. As it is, I don't give a rip about RA's or the X so I don't bother reading up on them. Nearly everything you listed here btw, was for the X and/or RA's. Now don't get me wrong- I'm sure you can find many more failures for the CT9A Evos, also by googling. Don't bother. I'd be more interested in seeing a list of people who drive a CT9A with ACD who have not had failures. Then again, no one cares since we're off topic ITT anyway and we're beating a dead horse here.

And what does the word, "majority" mean? More than half? After glancing at all these links, the majority of these cars were driven in salt. End of story. End of arguing. We're done here. Go kick rocks and prove your worth somewhere else- like in the X forums or something.

 

Good choice, I'm not a big fan on the X's still

I've had my 9, since 06. I'm considering a move to a different car as well but thinking something with a v8

 

I know you pulled it out of the air and it's very apparent that you don't read much on a topic before making an incorrect, generalized statement about it.

Compared to the X, there are nearly zero acd pump failures in the USDM evo1-9 (non-USDM pumps that also have AYC have a few more failures) because Mitsubishi had the brilliant idea of NOT putting the pump behind a wheel.

We're not at all off topic here since this thread is about 8 vs 10, or did you again fail to read what anyone was posting about?

 

Adam, are you always this stupid, or are you just making a special effort in this thread?? My whole point in even posting in this thread was because someone seemed to suggest that the 8 and 9 were plagued with ACD pump failures. You just validated the whole reason I posted in this thread, so thanks.