Nullify Fines For Loud Mufflers In California!
Jan 7, 2019, 03:13 PM
#1
Nullify Fines For Loud Mufflers In California!
Being a car enthusiast & car builder isn't illegal. Please help out and sign the petition.
https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...-in-california
https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...-in-california
Jan 9, 2019, 05:24 PM
#2
Evolving Member
For context, California Assembly Bill AB 1824 changed the wording of the exhaust law specifically as follows:
"(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.
This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems."
https://speedsociety.com/breaking-ca...n-correctable/
"(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.
This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems."
https://speedsociety.com/breaking-ca...n-correctable/
Jan 9, 2019, 05:48 PM
#3
Evolving Member
I’ve been seeing a lot of people bring up this topic on Facebook. Several are selling their cars because they don’t want to deal with CA laws and regs. Not sure what to believe with those posting their cars for sale for that reason... There has to be a solution to this. In my case I have a down pipe to a catalytic converter to an Invida exhaust. My car turns out 89 dbs at wide open throttle. I also don’t live in CA, but those cruiser motorcycles with the open pipes are often louder than the cars. Would this law be cracking down on them?
Jan 9, 2019, 06:44 PM
#5
Motorcycles can be loud because its "safer" for them. You may not see them coming but you will hear them instead. At least that's what I have been told. My car isn't registered in CA so it doesnt matter to me but I run the RRE Steath exhaust so it's not like it would matter anyways. Shoot, besides visually, it would even pass CA smog. CA sucks for car enthusiasts.
Jan 9, 2019, 07:21 PM
#7
Dont think its going to be a bigger issue than what we have today. If im not mistaken, a Cop can already Ref you if he suspects your emissions system has been modified.
This issue will die down like all the other laws on the books.
But for sure, we are in a bad state of affairs (hate the state)
This issue will die down like all the other laws on the books.
But for sure, we are in a bad state of affairs (hate the state)
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Jan 9, 2019, 09:04 PM
#8
Cops can stick you with $1,000 automatic fine if he/she feels you modified it to make it louder (so this is any cop who sees too much bling and don't like how you look). Not correctable and you have to go to ref.
As you all know, I've gotten harassed end of November. I know my oem spoiler got him tailing me, so I'm now wingless. I'm considering painting my carbon fiber to match my car color. I'm also looking at throwing my stock exhaust on to not deal with cocky cops. It's not worth my time.
I'll probably be at Fontana more often since I need to test turbos, so it will be a lot more hassle. I will go with a bigger turbo to keep back pressure down since I'll probably be driving around with stock exhaust.
As you all know, I've gotten harassed end of November. I know my oem spoiler got him tailing me, so I'm now wingless. I'm considering painting my carbon fiber to match my car color. I'm also looking at throwing my stock exhaust on to not deal with cocky cops. It's not worth my time.
I'll probably be at Fontana more often since I need to test turbos, so it will be a lot more hassle. I will go with a bigger turbo to keep back pressure down since I'll probably be driving around with stock exhaust.
Jan 9, 2019, 09:44 PM
#9
Dont think its going to be a bigger issue than what we have today. If im not mistaken, a Cop can already Ref you if he suspects your emissions system has been modified.
This issue will die down like all the other laws on the books.
But for sure, we are in a bad state of affairs (hate the state)
This issue will die down like all the other laws on the books.
But for sure, we are in a bad state of affairs (hate the state)
Jan 10, 2019, 06:51 AM
#13
That's exactly why I've lost respect for law enforcement. Instead of fully going after the criminals that break the law, they always come up with something stupid instead. Who thought ticketing loud mufflers will solve the illegal street takeovers? Do they know a stock exhaust RWD can do donuts just as easily as modded exhaust RWD? Are cops really that dumb? We already know that some have no clue AWD wouldn't be doing donuts. Do they just hire anyone to enforce the law? Tell me something: Would you hire a chef to build a bridge?
Jan 10, 2019, 06:54 AM
#14
That's exactly why I've lost respect for law enforcement. Instead of fully going after the criminals that break the law, they always come up with something stupid instead. Who thought ticketing loud mufflers will solve the illegal street takeovers? Do they know a stock exhaust RWD can do donuts just as easily as modded exhaust RWD? Are cops really that dumb? We already know that some have no clue AWD wouldn't be doing donuts. Do they just hire anyone to engorce the law? Tell me something: Would you hire a chef to build a bridge?
This hype on this new law wont last long. But its just another thorn in the car enthusiasts side to worry about
Jan 10, 2019, 08:13 AM
#15
EvoM Community Team Leader
Correct me if im wrong, but the only changes to the law are that the officer no longer has the option to mark the citation as correctable. They always could have opted not to mark that option, so its not any new power they have, its just they have less options now when citing it. DB levels remain the same. The 1000 dollar fine being tossed around is if they suspect you have tampered with the emissions and send you to the ref, which is a different thing.