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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 02:02 PM
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Ok so here goes. So since my work has decided to cut my hrs all my bonus that I so graciously got is now depleted from bills, property taxes etc. So long story short car is still on e85 well e75 according to the ic7 but my turck needed gas. So I drove the evo to work no big deal. Get my Friday done come home and now its time to put fuel in the evo. I get in it this morning to go to the gas station and of course doesn't wanna start. 17 degrees here in Michigan and as all of you guys know e85 no likey cold. So I try to start it 2 more times and the the starter hisses at me basically saying **** you. This is the 4th or 5th starter that I have put in this car, wtf is killing them? I am not over cranking or anything but this is getting annoying. Anyone have any ideas?
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CurseDSM
Ok so here goes. So since my work has decided to cut my hrs all my bonus that I so graciously got is now depleted from bills, property taxes etc. So long story short car is still on e85 well e75 according to the ic7 but my turck needed gas. So I drove the evo to work no big deal. Get my Friday done come home and now its time to put fuel in the evo. I get in it this morning to go to the gas station and of course doesn't wanna start. 17 degrees here in Michigan and as all of you guys know e85 no likey cold. So I try to start it 2 more times and the the starter hisses at me basically saying **** you. This is the 4th or 5th starter that I have put in this car, wtf is killing them? I am not over cranking or anything but this is getting annoying. Anyone have any ideas?
probably the downpipe. I just broke one too. the last one make a braack sound after fill up and leaving the gas station and started one more time on my drive way and its done for. it actuates but wont spin. this is the 2nd time I've put back my backup starter. I have fixed my slow cranking issue and starts fine early morning with e85 so I'm not sure... I only have starters bought on ebay, looks like from the same manufacturer. I ordered another one
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 07:49 AM
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probably the downpipe. I just broke one too. the last one make a braack sound after fill up and leaving the gas station and started one more time on my drive way and its done for. it actuates but wont spin. this is the 2nd time I've put back my backup starter. I have fixed my slow cranking issue and starts fine early morning with e85 so I'm not sure... I only have starters bought on ebay, looks like from the same manufacturer. I ordered another one
My downpipe is heat wrapped way past the starter. And yeah mine does the same thing. It makes this weird noise then it hisses at you when its done. All my starters are oem that I pick up from a buddy of mine who parts evos.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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Where are you getting starters?

STM offers their own starter now, and we've had great luck with them at the shop. No issues so far.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 12:05 PM
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Where are you getting starters?

STM offers their own starter now, and we've had great luck with them at the shop. No issues so far.
I have a buddy who parts out evos and 3000gts. I have got all my starters from him. I am prob going to get one from stm. I rather get something new rather then something I have no idea about.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 08:30 PM
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I have a buddy who parts out evos and 3000gts. I have got all my starters from him. I am prob going to get one from stm. I rather get something new rather then something I have no idea about.
Yeah. Who knows the previous life those used starters lived.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CurseDSM
My downpipe is heat wrapped way past the starter. And yeah mine does the same thing. It makes this weird noise then it hisses at you when its done. All my starters are oem that I pick up from a buddy of mine who parts evos.
Mine's FG and reflective heat wrapped too. I'm considering adding another layer of heatshielding on the starter side. ya never know.
hey if your struggling starting the car on cold mornings + e85, see if the HD relay solution would help you. I'm now just running with a $50 battery and no problem starting on 45 degree early mornings
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CurseDSM
Ok so here goes. So since my work has decided to cut my hrs all my bonus that I so graciously got is now depleted from bills, property taxes etc. So long story short car is still on e85 well e75 according to the ic7 but my turck needed gas. So I drove the evo to work no big deal. Get my Friday done come home and now its time to put fuel in the evo. I get in it this morning to go to the gas station and of course doesn't wanna start. 17 degrees here in Michigan and as all of you guys know e85 no likey cold. So I try to start it 2 more times and the the starter hisses at me basically saying **** you. This is the 4th or 5th starter that I have put in this car, wtf is killing them? I am not over cranking or anything but this is getting annoying. Anyone have any ideas?
Get that cold start fixed. Mine fired at 15 the other morning to move it to the garage on e80.
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGetThisDone
Yeah. Who knows the previous life those used starters lived.
Your definitely right, but when your in a pinch and maybe strapped for cash a 50 dollar starter same day gets the job done. I am definitely going to buy a new one this time though for sure being like you said you just don't know the history of the starters at that point.

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Mine's FG and reflective heat wrapped too. I'm considering adding another layer of heatshielding on the starter side. ya never know.
hey if your struggling starting the car on cold mornings + e85, see if the HD relay solution would help you. I'm now just running with a $50 battery and no problem starting on 45 degree early mornings
I am unfamiliar with the hd relay solution whats that? Problem was with mine it was 18 outside and more of a cold start thing.

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Get that cold start fixed. Mine fired at 15 the other morning to move it to the garage on e80.
Yeah that was the plan for this weekend being I haven't had time to really look at it. I have a nasty sinus infection so I am home this weekend from the gf's house so that was what I was going to do but now I need a starter
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 08:27 AM
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I am unfamiliar with the hd relay solution whats that? Problem was with mine it was 18 outside and more of a cold start thing.
This one solved all my cranking issues and embarrassing cold starts. sometimes more juice solves starting issues

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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 08:56 AM
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Hmm thanks for that vicious, I will look into that after I fix the gfs water heater or sometime this week being it is suppose to warm up here a little this week.
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Hmm thanks for that vicious, I will look into that after I fix the gfs water heater or sometime this week being it is suppose to warm up here a little this week.
I hope you get faster cranking too
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11964399
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 01:37 AM
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Thanks for the link. I will look into this when I can. Hopefully it will fix some of the problems too.
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