Thats awesome to know. Interested in this haha.

 

Yeah I'm switching from a 2.4 to a 2.2, even though I think a 2.4 is the best. #1 reason is smog, #2 is confusion/concerns about timing, water pump adapters, and headgasket sealing from local shops.

I'm going in for one more round. I'm not interested in driving a stock Evo, but I also don't think a better platform exists. Supras don't suit me, I like the humble looks of a wingless Evo. If I surrendered to California I would start drilling speed-holes in a Polestar 2.

 

thank god my cars are registered somewhere in IL where no smog is required

 

You would be surprised. I've found two cars, so far, that I enjoy more than my old Evo. They are out there.

 

i get the sentiment though, the evo is gonna be my only tuner car. the rest, i'll enjoy 99% stock.

it does make it tricky to find a better performance car, tuned evo vs. stock though. despite how enjoyable driving the m3 was, the evo was faster. most cars this side of 100k are going to be slower than the evo modified, and the ones that are aren't all that appealing...

 

I kept two of my cars stock and the other is exempt from smog so it doesn't matter. Such a relief not to have to mess with stuff. I now find myself just enjoying owning and driving the things. That's where my focus has gone, maybe as I get older I guess.
My Supra is as fast or faster than my heavily modified Evo. It is also just as fun to drive, just in a different way.
My General Lee is fun in ways the Evo can never be. Self-explanatory lol
The Ferrari also scratches a ln itch the Evo never could. Unfair comparison, as I have that car for different reasons.
Even still, I'm selling the Supra as I am no longer doing the track rat thing. If I'm not doing track days, then I don't have a reason not to leave my cars stock. In regards to smog, of course. Neither of the cars I have to smog have any powertrain modifications whatsoever. Not even so much as an air filter
Just a couple of years ago, I used to be the opposite. This is a huge change for me. My priorities have shifted. I now prefer driving the cars considerably more than working on them.

 

I have 3" DP/exhaust and 3" 100 cell Milspec Metal Matrix cat. Stock ECU 93 tune and no codes no software cut outs no rear O2 spacer. Little smell or carbon on the bumper.
Frankly surprised it works.

Mitsuatb

 

no honestly i'm the same way, but i've always built this 2nd evo with minimal headache in mind, which mostly means minor bolt-ons power-wise, more focus on suspension and drivetrain. i followed a stock supra with wheels + tires on track once, driven by a near pro driver, and while he pulled away, it was a walk at best - at a track i've been to twice and wasn't all that comfortable at. i think in the same driver's hands, my car is probably a similar speed to that car.

what i meant was, i'm not plunking down 60k for a car that is abouuuut or slightly faster than the evo. the experience will of course be different, and like i said i loved driving my e92 m3, i enjoyed driving the evo more. anyway.

what we should do is pool a few hundred bucks for an office in delaware or wherever and get all our registration done in a looser state, lol

 

My supra with only wheels and tires is as fast or faster than my really, really modified Evo, based on my lap times. I can't imagine a car with less stuff being close, with all else being equal.
Plus, I don't have to hunt down unobtanium parts of something goes wrong.
Jumping ship is the hardest decision I've ever had to make, but definitely turned out for the best.

 

How a car feels going fast is just as important as how fast it actually is. AWD and RWD handle differently and definitely feel different coming around a corner on power so it's hard to make an apples to apples comparison for driving experience. Paddle shifters are faster than a traditional 3rd pedal stick shift, but rowing gears can be more satisfying. I have no doubt that the MK5 supra can hold its own on the track and hope it gives you years of enjoyment.

 

shrug, yea just wasn't the case for me, at least at that track, with me as a worse driver in the evo. i don't know what your setup was, so i can't comment on your experience. there will always be faster cars, stock. doesn't mean the value is there. happy to take that convo elsewhere. I don't think "getting a new car" is the solution he's searching for.

I'd rather jump through emissions hoops or register the car where it's not a problem (what I did) than jump platforms - especially if I were using the car for a specific competition (SCCA STU). When I did have to pass smog, I swapped in my cat. I always ran the rear o2.

 

it was great but selling it anyway.

I blame worm holes. 😂
All I know is that I'm faster in a new car that I have zero experience with as opposed to the Evo that I drove for 10 years. My lap times and event wins speak towards my experience.
I will add a disclaimer that I realize I am still on an evo forum so fully expect certain responses. I used to say the same thing when I still had mine. I totally get it.
Everyone's still on this forum should positively, absolutely be enjoying their evos. Otherwise everyone would be somewhere else.

 

I haven't seen a Supra do well locally and I run in the big events. Locally our supra guys are chi-town boys, for some reason likes making u-turns in front of my house... with race numbers on wtf

 

the guy i was chasing was jackie ding (not the TA2 supra, a stock one that they tried bolting the TA2 wheels/tires on), at gingerman (which I only did twice at that point). Ding is obviously pro/semi pro and he did pull away but it wasn't by miles. with a fairer driver, i think the times would have been nearly identical (tomo did a 1:37 in my car after 2-3 laps, pre ssb knuckles, pre cams), if not the evo a little quicker. and my car is stock aero, limited to 255s street tires. like i said, i don't know how your car was built but i think if it wasn't beating a stock supra there was something wrong. from what I've seen, bolt-ons evo with good setup should beat a stock supra, like for like, per my experience above. i do think that my evo is really well set up though, based on how everyone is building theirs in 2022-2023. and even if not, supra is what, 60k? I don't know that I'd put that money into a car that, let's say will only go a second faster on track. modified supra is of course a completely different story.

 

sounds like the Honda Boyz in my town.