VII or VIII?
VII or VII?
Alright im a bit confused here i was under the impression that the Evo model coming to the states was the VII. But on here i see stories of the VIII coming stateside instead? So... which one is it?
thx for clearing this up.
thx for clearing this up.
I really doubt the US is going to see the VII. If you look search the Rumor forum you'll see that a) the VII has finished its production run b) not enough remaining units to feed the US market c) needs the revisions to the front bumper for crash tests and so on. The Evo the US is more than likely to see is going to see is that one in all the "spy shots" everywhere. Other than that (if not including that) everything else is still up in the air.
Read this LINK. It will help explain why we are getting the 8 and not the 7. Plus just take a look at all the spy pics out there, especially the ones shown in Autoweek. If you want a 7 then you will have to get one through Evolution Imports
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The upcoming of the VIII is pretty much confirmed.
wouldn't have shown it in the Las Vegas auto show for nothing! Either late January, or February, the US shall see the long-waited US Evolution VIII.
wouldn't have shown it in the Las Vegas auto show for nothing! Either late January, or February, the US shall see the long-waited US Evolution VIII.
There seems to be some misconception of the model numbers assigned to the Lancer Evolution homologation models produced by Ralliart for MMC. I'll try and produce a coherent explanation, but no guarantees:
The Evolution series has, so far, utilized 3 different Lancer base cars as a platform for the series. During it's lifetime on those base cars, there has been several "runs", each one being assigned a number. And each number can have a sub-number within that run denoting a "minor" update vs. a major update. Witness the version 6.5 Tommy Makinnen edition, or the 7.5 GT-A.
A good example of why this is confusing is that normal cars do this also, in the form of updates to the a car model throughout it's normal 5-year sales span. During that 5 years, a car model can be updated several times, with minor to major updates to power, appearance, suspension and other features. For instance, the S2000 has had a major change in the suspension, though no news has been made of it. The confusion here comes from the fact that the Evolution series has numbers assigned to it, while "normal" cars simply have differences based on years without a number attached. The S2000 doesn't have a version 1 and a version 2, nor does quite a number of other cars. However, if you were to ask about it specifically, you would find that there is some sort of model code that differentiates them, especially for dealers (or aftermarket tuners that have to change their products for differences in the cars).
If you looked at a Lancer Evolution 7 and then the Lancer Evolution 7.5, you wouldn't notice many differences externally. It's the automatic gearbox and other changes that make it a 7.5 instead of a 7. And when the Lancer Evolution 8 comes out, it may look much like an Evolution 7 - because it mostly is. It will have different bumpers and bolt-on bits, there may be quite a few changes under the skin, but it probably won't be that radically different than an Evolution 7.
Subaru has given up on the naming scheme, as a matter of fact, because there eventually be a point where it gets ridiculous. At this current rate, there will eventually be a Evo XXIII, right? That's why the current body Subaru STI remains an STI, but the model code changes - from initial GDA to GDB, and soon GDC.
I hope that all made some sense (and cleared up a little confusion).
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
The Evolution series has, so far, utilized 3 different Lancer base cars as a platform for the series. During it's lifetime on those base cars, there has been several "runs", each one being assigned a number. And each number can have a sub-number within that run denoting a "minor" update vs. a major update. Witness the version 6.5 Tommy Makinnen edition, or the 7.5 GT-A.
A good example of why this is confusing is that normal cars do this also, in the form of updates to the a car model throughout it's normal 5-year sales span. During that 5 years, a car model can be updated several times, with minor to major updates to power, appearance, suspension and other features. For instance, the S2000 has had a major change in the suspension, though no news has been made of it. The confusion here comes from the fact that the Evolution series has numbers assigned to it, while "normal" cars simply have differences based on years without a number attached. The S2000 doesn't have a version 1 and a version 2, nor does quite a number of other cars. However, if you were to ask about it specifically, you would find that there is some sort of model code that differentiates them, especially for dealers (or aftermarket tuners that have to change their products for differences in the cars).
If you looked at a Lancer Evolution 7 and then the Lancer Evolution 7.5, you wouldn't notice many differences externally. It's the automatic gearbox and other changes that make it a 7.5 instead of a 7. And when the Lancer Evolution 8 comes out, it may look much like an Evolution 7 - because it mostly is. It will have different bumpers and bolt-on bits, there may be quite a few changes under the skin, but it probably won't be that radically different than an Evolution 7.
Subaru has given up on the naming scheme, as a matter of fact, because there eventually be a point where it gets ridiculous. At this current rate, there will eventually be a Evo XXIII, right? That's why the current body Subaru STI remains an STI, but the model code changes - from initial GDA to GDB, and soon GDC.
I hope that all made some sense (and cleared up a little confusion).
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
Originally posted by 3K
I thought all manufacturers used model codes for different chasis?
ie. CN9A Evo lV, CP9A Evo V, Vl, and the current iteration CT9A Evo Vll, Vlll?
I thought all manufacturers used model codes for different chasis?
ie. CN9A Evo lV, CP9A Evo V, Vl, and the current iteration CT9A Evo Vll, Vlll?
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
Originally posted by: shirokuma
I totally agree with your statement, I couldn't understand why some people thought the Vlll was going to be a new car from the ground up. When the Vll was already a new car from the ground up and was only in its second year run.
Since MMC and most JDM manufactuers do not make MAJOR redesigns till at least the fourth year run. This didn't make much sense.
Well, yes - and then there is usually some code after that denoting the version. It's just that people are getting too hung up on not getting an "Evo Vll" when the Evo Vlll isn't really that much different from the Vll ( in a relative manner).
Since MMC and most JDM manufactuers do not make MAJOR redesigns till at least the fourth year run. This didn't make much sense.


