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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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hmmm yeah sounds like either the t-case is still bolted to the trans or @least not been pryed away from the trans or the tob is still hanging... The tob is extremely easy to release anyway just follow the evo moto instructions to a tee on releasing that.... basically you want to move it to the position where the tob and clip is open stick a screw driver in there then move it to the other position which is closed and twist the screw driver... should go snap and its done...
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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^so it really does work!? i've been asking if this method of bleeding would really work in other posts, you're the 1st person i've seen that actually tried it and it worked! awesome!
yeah it worked perfectly.... i just put the line back on the t-case after taking the bolt out it proved to be much easier this way vs. trying to work around that banjo fitting..... though it does make a little mess lol
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Are the transfer case and tranny seperated? It sounds as if the throwout bearing is still attached to the snap ring
Yes the tranny and transfer case are VERY seperated. The TOB took us like 2 hours to get apart because it didn't want to snap off. We finally got pissed and somehow we managed to bend one of the clips that hold it on so it's not even attached to the release fork any more. It's beaten to **** and back and the tranny just won't budge past that 1 inch that it's seperated from the tranny already.

I don't know what to do and no amount of wiggling is helping us. I'm almost tempted to wrap a rope around it and tie the other end to a car and drive in the opposite direction. Is there another one of those stupid circlips on the input shaft? Has anyone else had problems with this?

Thanks for the advice so far.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Yes the tranny and transfer case are VERY seperated. The TOB took us like 2 hours to get apart because it didn't want to snap off. We finally got pissed and somehow we managed to bend one of the clips that hold it on so it's not even attached to the release fork any more. It's beaten to **** and back and the tranny just won't budge past that 1 inch that it's seperated from the tranny already.

I don't know what to do and no amount of wiggling is helping us. I'm almost tempted to wrap a rope around it and tie the other end to a car and drive in the opposite direction. Is there another one of those stupid circlips on the input shaft? Has anyone else had problems with this?

Thanks for the advice so far.

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One other way I did it when the thow out bearing and snap ring were being a ***** was to undo all the bolts that hold the PP to the flywheel. Loosen one and rotate, another and rotate, etc.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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One other way I did it when the thow out bearing and snap ring were being a ***** was to undo all the bolts that hold the PP to the flywheel. Loosen one and rotate, another and rotate, etc.
We were actually debating about doing that, if I can't get the TOB off tonight, we'll go one by one like that. Thanks for the tip.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kcevo
One other way I did it when the thow out bearing and snap ring were being a ***** was to undo all the bolts that hold the PP to the flywheel. Loosen one and rotate, another and rotate, etc.

That would suck, but hey it gets the job done! I never would have thought about that!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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We were actually debating about doing that, if I can't get the TOB off tonight, we'll go one by one like that. Thanks for the tip.
lol yeah the dumbass dealer did it this way on my car... except they sorta took a bigass chunk out the bell housing big enough i can almost put my hand through it...... anyway now i do my own clutches
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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If the dealer would have done that to my car they would be buying me a new transmission.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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yeah it was a bad deal.... mitsu *****y corp wouldnt back me..... and i didnt have enough cash for a lawyer..... and uhhh well it was a mitsubishi dealer is the worst part..... and the owner was a total *******..... just wait ill get them muhahaha
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BaLListic_EVO
lol yeah the dumbass dealer did it this way on my car... except they sorta took a bigass chunk out the bell housing big enough i can almost put my hand through it...... anyway now i do my own clutches
Jesus, that's a bad deal right there. We thankfully haven't damaged anything, but I feel like throwing **** at this PITA. I really don't understand Mitsu****ty's engineering. This car is amazing when it works, but heaven help you if you have to do anything in depth. God...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Well, I'm still working on getting this TOB off. Here are some pics of what we've got so far:











Does anyone have any other ideas? We're fresh out and it's getting really aggrevating. The taking off the Pressure Plate idea is not going to work because we can not get any sockets in there to take it off.

Thanks for the help so far guys,

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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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So you pulled the transfer case output shafts? And to remove the TOB you wedged a screwdriver into the sleeve to disengage it from holding the PP? And you pulled the 6 bolts that hold the t-case to the car? One bolt faces the driver side and is a b*tch to get to. Something is holding that sucker on there. Let me know on all that.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
So you pulled the transfer case output shafts? And to remove the TOB you wedged a screwdriver into the sleeve to disengage it from holding the PP? And you pulled the 6 bolts that hold the t-case to the car? One bolt faces the driver side and is a b*tch to get to. Something is holding that sucker on there. Let me know on all that.
The T-case is hanging over on the passenger side of the car, not any where near the transmission, it's completely separated. We've removed every bolt that could POSSIBLY hold the transmission to the block, which is why we are able to get it to move out.

We've pried and pried on the TOB and it won't pop out. We've taken the transmission away from the block and put it back on several times to try and see if it gives us more leverage, and it didn't. As you can see in those pics, we've broken off the two tabs that hold the TOB to the release fork. It's just not coming out.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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So you put a screwdriver in the oval area and then pulled the TOB fork towards the driver side and then rotated the screwdriver to act as a wedge to release the TOB from holding the input shaft of the transmission?

Did you remove both motor mounts? The rear and driver side trans mounts? Have you removed the starter? I am trying to build a case in my head to think thru everything?
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
So you put a screwdriver in the oval area and then pulled the TOB fork towards the driver side and then rotated the screwdriver to act as a wedge to release the TOB from holding the input shaft of the transmission?

Did you remove both motor mounts? The rear and driver side trans mounts? Have you removed the starter? I am trying to build a case in my head to think thru everything?
Yes, yes, yes and yes.

We've tried prying the TOB away from the PP several times at several different angles and it's not budging. I don't know what to do now. We've COMPLETELY screwed up the wedge collar, parts of it actual touch the PP. It's peeled away from the TOB by about 1/2 an inch and there is no movement from the release fork when the engine and the tranny are mated because we have broken the clips that hold the TOB to the release fork.

Any ideas? Thanks again for your help so far, it's really appreciated.
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