DIY COP Coil On Plug Setup
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WelDun1 (Apr 10, 2018)
#167
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Now if i can only find out which Suzuki, Nissan or Mazda models come with them stock! At this point its not even about the money, it never was, i just like having the information!
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Alternator is more likely than lead-acid battery.
Could you imagine if 30,000 volts can go through the battery? To get back to coil, would it go through ECM? I doubt the ECM will survive that. Or any other electronics that it can travel through. It just doesn't make sense. Let's keep this discussion logical and not full of claims. And I don't buy that spark is 30,000V at spark plug and then it changes to 12V (or some other voltage) as it goes through the battery.
Could you imagine if 30,000 volts can go through the battery? To get back to coil, would it go through ECM? I doubt the ECM will survive that. Or any other electronics that it can travel through. It just doesn't make sense. Let's keep this discussion logical and not full of claims. And I don't buy that spark is 30,000V at spark plug and then it changes to 12V (or some other voltage) as it goes through the battery.
If you were to cross the isolation barrier with a direct connection bad things would happen. Grounds are keep separate except for a point using a capacitor or resistor to allow for transient currents.
A pulsed power application like the spark plug, current will travel from its positive potential through the plug then into ground. Which immediately loops back around. It does not necessarily have to travel home first. Current may flow into and out of the ground plane and to the battery. The ground loops will determine available paths.
Sorry to necro post but this triggered me.
#170
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yesterday I test fitted my coils and they sit very low WITHOUT the mounting plate. I see that with the mounting plate my coils would sit kind of high off of the plug. is everyone else's like that? is that normal?
evo 9, 06 scion xa oem coils
evo 9, 06 scion xa oem coils
#171
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I think thats normal with the toyota coils. If you dig into some of the how-to's I think its pretty common to stretch the metal coil that contacts the plug so that it makes a good connection.
While we are here though I can update the previous discussion on ground paths, knowing perhaps a little more now. Both sides of the transformer (ignition coil) Primary and Secondary are tied to chassis ground. So the return path is simply, head -> chassis -> secondary. I've been planning on adding a ground straight from the head to the coil harness to shorten that at some point.
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Tommyfacekicker (Aug 14, 2019)
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I think thats normal with the toyota coils. If you dig into some of the how-to's I think its pretty common to stretch the metal coil that contacts the plug so that it makes a good connection.
While we are here though I can update the previous discussion on ground paths, knowing perhaps a little more now. Both sides of the transformer (ignition coil) Primary and Secondary are tied to chassis ground. So the return path is simply, head -> chassis -> secondary. I've been planning on adding a ground straight from the head to the coil harness to shorten that at some point.
While we are here though I can update the previous discussion on ground paths, knowing perhaps a little more now. Both sides of the transformer (ignition coil) Primary and Secondary are tied to chassis ground. So the return path is simply, head -> chassis -> secondary. I've been planning on adding a ground straight from the head to the coil harness to shorten that at some point.
thanks for the feed back. I will be waiting to see your right up on the ground wiring.
#173
Dont know why my diy cop doesn’t work..it idles 5 sec then die..cant start it back..put back original coil car goes fine nothing happened..
im using k20 3 pins coil from honda and carefully checked all the wiring for any miss connection..all fine and good..
im using k20 3 pins coil from honda and carefully checked all the wiring for any miss connection..all fine and good..
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