this has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever read. BTW.....Brembo owns AP Racing, but I'm sure you already knew that. Sit down Johnson!

 

Forgot that one....

 

hahaha this is too funny

 

gotta have a little fun once and a while.....

 

OK. Since you spelled everything correctly including "kindergarten", I guess you deserve at least that.

I think we covered everything since you came in, but if there is more information you're seeking be specific. I believe you started with 6 piston vs. 4 piston, which shouldn't be a deciding factor really. As long as both have the same amount of piston area you'll notice very little difference other than modulation. If you are going to seriously track the car their is a long list to consider, (tire compound, suspension set up, driving style, etc.) but if you are looking to be the weekend track rat, just be sure the pad you use is for track use only and switch them out before leaving. Use Motul 600 or something equivalent for fluid (change often), and stainless brake lines.

And...and....and...GET AIR TO THE ROTOR AND CALIPER. You should be good with whatever brake you go with. I really don't think StopTech can be beat for the money at the track. They are extremely good brakes, easy on the pocket and easy to find pads for.

**the above is my opinion only, please do not thrAsh me due to my lack of JDM'ness.

 

First off - I am the manager at STaSIS and we engineered and built the kit on the FF Evo in SCC that broke all braking records ever done by them. I also used to work for the AP distributer and designed a tidy little floating setup for the Evo using OEM Brembo calipers. Its fair to say that I have tested a few sets of brakes in my time.

As for the
that is absolutely false. We partner with Alcon to chose from over 50 different piston configurations to create what we think is the ideal front to rear brake balance while designing in modulation and pedal fee for great "driver interface" with what the tire is doing. Bottom line on our kit for the Evo is that I have NEVER been in a car that stopped that hard, over....and over.....and over. The combination of the Alcon Mono6 MONOBLOC caliper and our 14" disc with floating drive system will make your eyes pop out of thier sockets. All of that and LIGHTER weight too:

OEM Brembo 4 piston Caliper = 10.1lbs
Alcon 6 piston monobloc = 7.5lbs
OEM disc = 21.5lbs
STaSIS Alcon 14" disc = 17.3lbs

 

Yeah, but stasis is sssssooooo 2001.

 

hey... what happened to that tidy little kit? where did it go, are you guys no longer making the oem size rotors?

and now we have more weight numbers, this is good stuff!

 

A couple of things;

1.) OEM Evo8MR + Master Cyl stopper + SS lines + Project Mu Level Max 900 = MUCH better brakes than Sti S203. (S203 = the final version before the facelift. They made only 555 of them and they're all Sti'ed up. Comes with 320bhp stock.) I haven't measured the distance, the difference is so large I don't think I need to. So, hooray for Evo fans!

I own both, so this is as fair as it's going to get. However, I think it's more to do with the fact that the Pirellis that come with the Subaru aren't all that great compared to the Yoko's that came with the Evo.

Sadly, the current set up does suffer from judder when it gets really hot from extensive high speed use. I'm thinking of replacing the rotors only.

I've recently dropped the idea of getting the big brakes kit mainly cos none of them will go inside my 17" Volk wheels.

Any recommendation on rotors that might cool better than stock?

2.) I certainly hope that it's true that racing improves the products. But really, to compare racing brakes to road brakes is missing the point a bit IMHO. We all know that our brakes have to work from the second we leave the house and not after an installation lap, and we don't always brake at 100% all the time (cos the 18wheeler behind us can't quite match our braking prowess).

F1 cars run mostly on AP, Alcon and Brembo. But they use carbon discs and God knows what they put in their pads. WRC cars run LIQUID COOLED calipers! That's with their own radiator, pump and all!! Obviously these are far beyond road car technology.

To put this on its head, there are certain materials (or properties) the the FIA does not allow to be used in calipers. So it is possible that someone can use this superior material for road calipers and have no racing referrence at all. (I don't think anyone does however).

My point (in this half) is that while not all manufacturers are created equal, racing referrence is should not be the main focus. Rather the focus should be on the opinions of people who use those kits which many people kindly provide.

 

It was race only (read - VERY LOUD) because it had no springs in the float system - if I had enough interest I could make another run using the Alcon components.

 

Actually we just won the final SCCA Speed Touring Car race on the very same parts that I sell for street use.

click here for race results



Our reasoning is that if it lasts on a racetrack - it will surely last on the street. Its like having your very own time machine when it comes to wearing brakes out - what takes you months on the street takes you a few days on the track. We used to run different parts on the racecar, special discs-lighter calipers-full floating non-sprung hats but we found that our "street" kits worked equally as well without the extra cost associated with low production race only items.......so we do sell EXACTLY what we race on (different pads only - but those are for sale also).

 

darn... cuz i'd wanna get the front kit... but **** it's 3 grand... for just the fronts.

 

thats a crazy price

 

For the best braking system for the Evo VIII that you can buy. The same set of brakes that just beat everyone at the Ultimate Street Car Competition in Sport Compact Car Magazine this month (only allowed 3 stops from 60mph). The same brakes that hold every braking record for the same magazine courtesy of the Forcedfed Evo VIII MR and on RA1 Toyos, not slicks or Hoosiers. This amazing braking was achieved on the 14th run in a row, not the third....can you say no fade?

The Evo Forcedfed Evo VIII MR stopped in 98 feet from 60mph, 135 feet from 70mph (Enzo Ferrari takes 155 feet) and 179 feet from 80mph (Enzo Ferrari 188 feet). Streetable, trackable, and balanced for the car. As Jason mentioned Alcon has 50 different piston configurations to choose from for the calipers to ensure the correct balance is maintained, that the ABS functions as it should and you do not have to rely on a proportioning valves or a larger master cylinder. How many pistons sizes does Stoptech have?

By the way for the gentlemen that recommended the Grex brakes, take a look at which caliper they are using....

 

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Just looked at your kit. Read about it else where on this thread. Like it a lot.

I was referring more on amount of credit people give to the more non-production based racing, however. Because by _that_ standard, your kit is no where near a full Brembo or AP. Which, as I'm sure you're aware is non-sense.

[Okay, I know Alcon are up there with them, but the rest of the kit doesn't quite have the brand-name effect]

BTW, anychance your (Stasis) kit for the Evo will fit inside a 17" Volk wheel?
Do you have any wheel clearance dimensions? What wheel do you recommend (that you know fits) and do you keep the same offset/width?

p.s. How do the Grex piston size compare to the Stasis? Anyone? Are they even the same calipers?