I'd like to upgrade my brakes but continue to use a 17'' wheel. What are the best brakes available money no object? Name complete brake kits, rotors, pads, etc. Thanks for any input.

 

ENDLESS BIG BRAKE KIT.. they have like sooooo many different brake caliper options its ridiculous
and they also have alot of brake pad options...

 

I'm interested in this also. I wanna do it in stages almost though. So I can feel the brakes getting stronger. Its also got to be streetable since that where 90% of the driving of my evo occurs... I'm thinkin:

Stage 0:
Pads: Endless SS-S pads

Stage 0+:
Lines: Stoptech SS brake lines
Fluid: Motul RBF600 or ATE SuperBlue, no difference really in my opinion

Stage 1:
Rotors: Not sure. Thinking Endless or Wilwood. Maybe Brembo?

Stage 2:
Calipers: Also not sure. Endless has some NICE 6 pot calipers, but again, no clue.

Any ideas guys? Suggestions for improvements anywhere? Might change pads to something meaner if I got new rotors...

 

If i replace the brake lines and fluid, should I go ahead and replace the clutch line and its fluid also?

 

You wont be able to fit a big brake kit worth getting under 17" rims. You might as well keep the stock brembos. Unless you track often, the brembos, with better fluds and pads and some slotted rotors is all you will need.

 

What are your intentions? I'm so tired of seeing questions like "What's the BEST xxx?"
You don't need to be asking a question similar to this unless it's worded like "My brakes can't handle all the heat and need solutions, what are they?" The best brakes for you are probably what is already on there. Be honest, you just want the "blingiest" brakes, right?

 

I have an Evo that currently makes 650 awhp and I primarily use it as a drag car. The car is currently being built using a "dual charger" system. The turbo is a Holsett Hx50 and a custom built supercharger is being used to help with spool up. I live in Denver so the altitude makes spooling a large turbo very difficult. It typically takes 20% longer for a turbo to spool at this altitude. We are also not able to run as much boost. The goal for this set up is over 800awhp with very little lag at altitude. The engine is a custom 2.3 L stroker.

I'd like this car to be the ultimate road race/drag car. I'd like high performance brakes with the lightest wheels possible since I also want to drag race. I'm looking to build the ultimate drag/road race car. I have no experience with the brake upgrades currently offered for the Evo so I'm asking for some help.

Not looking for bling, I'm looking for the highest quality components available.

 

if you want to keep 17's keep the stock brembos. just get some better pads (ferodo, hawk, carbotech), steel braided lines and some motul or ATE brake fluid and you'll be good to go.

 

uhm... 800 hp at your altitude... with very little lag? you need to stroke AND bore... start with a galant block... too bad you're in denver cuz the people that build galant blocks are here in socal.

actually now that i think of it... is that even possible? rhys millen has a twin turbo ls2 gto and he's only pushing upper 600 and it's at sea level pushing 6 liters of displacement.

well... let us know if it's possible with the dual charger system.

in any case i'll give you the one piece of info you need to know. stoptech front brake kit will mate perfectly with your rear brakes which don't need to be upgraded. this system is tested and is brake balanced.

stoptech kit comes with a larger rotor that is lighter than ANY ANY ANY rotor on teh market weighing in at only 13 and less than a half pounds (picture at roadraceengineering.com). this brake kit (and all stoptech kits) also use a patented vane technology that makes the air cascade off/out of the rotor moving much more air than i repeat again... ANY ANY ANY rotor on the market including the best that japan has to offer.

with this kit you will get fade free braking all day long on the tightest road courses to the highest speed big tracks.

to let you know i'm not just tootin' a horn with no evidence. check out robert fuller's car evom shoot out winner. check out deider's car he took 4th (but he has the full kit front and rear which is reported to "not feel as good" as the front kit mated with the rear stock brakes). i can't think of anyone else running stoptech off hand.... dangit... anyway check out their site too... and you'll realize they know their stuff and do a good amount of testing.

 

Racing brake rotors is what I plan to go with. As far as calipers I'm not sure.

 

aftermarket calipers aren't gonna get you much besides brake imbalance. the stock calipers are some of the best in the world, no joke... the difference between them and the stoptechs (performance wise) is prolly just that the stoptechs are made to mount on a larger rotor. check to see if you can get your stock caliper bracketed for a larger rotor or if you're keeping stock rotor size... don't change the calipers... they're so pretty anyway.

 

How about a set of these? Lighter than the stock calipers mated to 2 piece Brembo Racing discs. One of my mates run these under 18" rims with 370mm discs on his Evo 8.

Cheers
Dennis

 

Wow, you sure sound like you work over at stoptech. "Balanced" is a big word over there...

Anyway, fact: My 355mm stoptechs fade with $262 PFC pads. Braking is a lot more controllable and consistent, with lower rotor temps than on stock brembos/ rotora rotors and various racing pads. IMO their brakes need bigger pads with larger swept area rotors; 6 pots would also help. Initial bite isn't as aggressive as I wish and my ABS won't come on until down to about 50 to 60 mph on race slicks. My 9 year old porsche brakes better on 320mm rotors and hoosiers, which btw uses the exact same sized pad on the REAR as stoptech uses on their front ST40 355mm brake kit; which also happens to be smaller than the stock EVO front brake pad. A good friend just installed Forcefed's Alcon 6 pot 370mm kit, will report back after next track event.

Sorry to go off topic on your thread, just my 2¢.

 

wait so you have the stoptech front brake kit and you can make it fade with pf97s? hmmm... wow... robi told me they're pretty much fade free.... well anyway i heard the full kit has a meaner bite which some "pro drivers" didn't like, heard this from gt40...

hmmm... i have to ask though, what fluid and other stuff are you running with the stoptech kit? gotta wonder why it fades... and i'd assume your porsche is lighter hence better braking.

 

I've got the rotora 6 piston front w/ 14.2" rotor and 4 piston rear with 13.5 rear on my EVOs. Wheels are work emotion 18x8.5. No fitment issues. They have a few different pad options, the higher grade the more expensive...I have the H8 on the front of the MR , i have no fading issues but the pads list for 650. On my gsr im running the standard street pad and they are incredible. I was so used to the stopping power of the rotora setup that when i first got into the MR, i almost ended up in the middle of an intersection twice. Lauren at Rotora however said that there are some 17" wheels that will fit the 6/4 setup. There are a few rays and volks....and the 5 zigen 5 spoke wheel that works has on their MR.

shahin