Why is weight an issue? Mass is what absorbs the released energy in the form of heat. Heat being the related to all braking issues.

 

Rumor 'round these parts is that a lighter car may just be better than a heavier car!

 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. You were the last one to mention the "weight savings".

 

Hint of sarcasm, weight savings is always a good thing, check out this page: http://www.roadraceengineering.com/stoptech.htm

 

OK? I saw the page but didn't understand what you want me to see. Is that the right link?

I agree that Stoptech makes superior braking products. I'm just trying to tackle the train of thought that says calipers that weigh less are better, all other things being equal, particularly surface area and material. I understand the whole unsprung mass thinking that, I'm guessing here, makes people think lighter calipers are better. I just don't believe taking the good of less unsprung mass is worth taking the bad of less mass for heat absorbtion...again all things equal.

Again, if all other options were spent and I still couldn't get my heat issues under control I would give the Stoptech kit a serious look.

 

That there is the front caliper that the majority of the CART field ran when Reynard was kicking everyones butt.......8 pot, 4 pads per caliper....Ti pistons, etc...Very trck piece!

 

ok... i am curious as to how heavy the stoptech brake rotors are?

 

omg... anotheraznguy... i posted a link in this thread that shows a picture of a stoptech rotor on a scale reading 13.65 here it is again. http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...otorweight.jpg

mayham... read the entire thread... i explain that stoptech makes the lightest rotor and they can get away with the mass savings because they have a patented vane technology that allows their rotors to cool faster without the massive heat sinking.

 

OK, gotcha. I considered your comment after mine to not be related to the other posts. We're on the same page now.

 

Less weight doesnt always mean less mass. I do not think that you understand what you are talking about. They are actually BIGGER and have MORE MASS than our stock Brembos yet WEIGH LESS, understand how this combination is better?

 

Totally agree with you on that. Absolutely amazing set of brakes my mate has on his race car. It's not just the braking power, it's the ability to psychologically damage the opposition before the race even starts. It's severe overkill for the kinda racing that he participates in but hey, it works...damn well in fact. Have only seen these sorta calipers on road cars once. On a 800bhp R34 GT-R with the same 370mm discs. It's insane!

 

Uhhh...and how did you come up with less weight /= less mass? Bigger might mean more surface area and volume, but not less mass, assuming we're using the same material of the same density. I understand that the Stoptech have less mass AGAIN I was tackling the comment of calipers with less mass are better. There's a love/hate relationship with that thinking.

If you don't mind please refer from telling me to "read the entire thread" and "You don't understand what you are talking about". Weight is a direct result of mass*gravity. So unless we're on a different planet it's all relative. It's pretty common to use the words mass and weight interchangeably although technically they're not the same thing. But to be simple it is impossible for something to have more mass and weigh less then something else of less mass. Well it's impossible unless of course the object with greater mass IS ON THE MOON.

Here's a little equation for you to freshen up on: F=ma

 

This conversation is completely pointless. Forget it.

 

Either make a coherent point or stop posting. If you can't back up your posts with simple physics and without the need to insert smilies with rolling eyes and worthless comments like "you don't know what you're talking about" then go troll elsewhere. This is like making a point to a Valley High school girl. I'm waiting for the "Talk to the hand" any second now followed up with a "Whatever!". Maybe we'll eventually see a "Just Because" line of reasoning.

Go feed your 10g*9.8m/s^2 < 5g*9.8m/s^2 to another forum full of people that didn't at least finish high school.

If you want to talk tech, lets talk tech. I'm always down for it. I didn't spend [n * 10^y] years in college studying engineering and physics because I found it boring.

 

do you have any idea what mass is? LMAO