As the title says, I'm getting new brake pads, front and read Hawk HPS, put on. My 05 Evo has 16,500 miles on it and these are the first time im getting the pads replaced. The guy at tire source is telling me that I absolutely need to have my rotors resurfaced or replaced, or putting on the new pads is pretty much worthless. They charge $270 to get the front and rears machined. They are also charging $165 to install the pads. What do you guys think of this? Should I have my rotors resurfaced, or will i still get good stopping power for spirited daily driving? Also, should I have them replace the pads, or should I go ahead and do it myself? For anyone who has replaced their pads with these Hawks, how did it work out for ya? Thanks in advance.

 

You should not have to replace or resurface your rotors when putting on new pads. What you will want to do is bed in the new pads when installed. For a good write up on bed in click here

As for changing the pads, it's easy to do. There is a good write on Evom about it right here

I followed this particular thread when I did my brakes and I have not had any problems. I don't have experience with the Hawk pads, but as with any non stock replacement pad, you will need to re-use the fiber shims adhered to the back of your old stock pads. This important as they will help reduce pad squeak. Just use a thin scraper or putty knife to carefully pry them off the pads.

Hope this helps.

 

yes it is really easy... if you can follow instructions it is simple. save yourself the money and follow those 2 links.

 

thanks. i'm gonna see if there is anyone that lives around me that can help me with this because i've never done it before and i don't wanna accidently do it wrong and then crash my car.

 

im serious when i said it was simple... you may need help from someone just in case you need the stereo station changed and or a drink of water or something, other then that, it is really very easy.

 

General rule for me is if the pads going on are more aggressive than the old pads, no turning required. If the pads going on are less aggressive, have them skimmed. The transfer layer can get uneven and this can cause judder. When we skim rotors, we take off around .002-.004 per side. not a big deal. Lots of shops don't know what the heck they are doing and will cut .020 per side. $270 to cut rotors sounds like highway robbery to me. FWIW

Martin

 

thanks a lot for your help. im gonna go ahead and throw on the pads when i get them in tomorrow.

 

does anyone know where i can get some anti-seize compound?

 

I agree

There does seem to be a noise issue when the HPS are installed on used OEM rotors that aren't skimmed. It appears to take repeated attempts at bedding to swap the layer completely.

And there is a big difference between the mostly intermittent squeal from the Brembo's that is common with most all pads and the howling you may get from HPS after OEM.

The trick is to find a machine shop that won't ruin your rotor by hacking off too much.

 

machining is generally not a good idea, you lose rotor mass and then the rotors heat up easier, which causes them to warp again sooner. someone suggested rebeding the pads on the "warped rotors" just make sure not to come to a stop with the hot pads, or the compound will bond to the rotors again

i havnt tried this, but its worth a shot

i got stoptech slotted rotors on my car, they look great and work very well so far

my 0.02

 

I had to order the copper stuff from a local autoparts store. I just took the info from the install how to link and asked about it. It was a local place, not like an Autozone or Pepboys. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

 

is this the stuff?

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...rtnumber=80078

 

pad install is easy. only hard part is taking off wheels

 

No. The copper stuff will say "copper" on the bottle. The item # on mine is 09128. I believe that is the "part" number.