Got aligned twice, still not straight
Sep 20, 2008, 07:01 AM
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Have them fix it. They probably set the alignment based off one of the wheels as it sat, so that they only had to adjust one wheel instead of both (lazy, in a hurry, just don't care). IE: they turned the steering wheel so that toe was zero on the left front, then adjusted the right wheel to zero out toe. They need to put the steering wheel straight, then adjust both wheels.
Or, go to a real alignment shop. I have the lifetime alignment at Firestone, but I BSed with the tech a bunch and he loves Evos so he does it right for me now.
Or, go to a real alignment shop. I have the lifetime alignment at Firestone, but I BSed with the tech a bunch and he loves Evos so he does it right for me now.
Sep 20, 2008, 07:15 AM
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I do performance alignments for Evos all the time. Most "normal" alignment shops don't take into account the driver's weight when performing an alignment. Typically the car will align straight on a rack without the driver's weight but, once the driver's weight is place in the car the alignment specs all change to favor the left and can possibly cause the car to pull to the left.
At 5 degrees though it sounds like the shop didn't align the steering wheel during the alignment. The Evos are very tricky when adjusting toe. You can set one side and the steering wheel is straight than move to the other side, adjust toe, and everything is off.
It sounds like the shop that did the alignment either was in a hurry, didn't know the ins and outs of an Evo or just simply weren't competent enough to do the work.
At 5 degrees though it sounds like the shop didn't align the steering wheel during the alignment. The Evos are very tricky when adjusting toe. You can set one side and the steering wheel is straight than move to the other side, adjust toe, and everything is off.
It sounds like the shop that did the alignment either was in a hurry, didn't know the ins and outs of an Evo or just simply weren't competent enough to do the work.
I'll go find the printout here shortly. FWIW, I had it aligned at two different places.
Sep 20, 2008, 09:15 AM
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sorry it's a little blury. This is the most recent alignment with the Swift springs. I can post up the previous one with the Teins if anyone thinks that might be useful.
I have free alignments for a year with NTB. The first alignment was at the NTB that AMS uses for all* their alignment stuff, so needless to say, they do LOTS of Evos. Unfortunately, I was watching the tech as he finished up my car, and he first tried to back it out with a chock still under the wheel and the chain behind the bay, then when I yelled at him to stop and get out and move the stuff, he hit my door on a metal stepladder that was sitting to close to the car(I had JUST bought the car, was no happy). The most recent alignment was at another NTB.
*AMS now does in-house alignments and corner balancing, but all their standard alignments go to NTB.
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Sep 20, 2008, 09:28 AM
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Are you the original owner? Has the car been wrecked before? If the car took a hit in the right spots, it cosmetically could've been fixed, but the alignment will never quite be the same.
Same thing happened on my previous car. Previous owner had hit a curb, got it fixed, it never showed up on the car fax, but never could get the alignment completely straight.
Same thing happened on my previous car. Previous owner had hit a curb, got it fixed, it never showed up on the car fax, but never could get the alignment completely straight.
Pic of me at the AMS track day last weekend for help!: http://thefrost.net/randomfiles/rand...h/DSC08161.JPG
Sep 20, 2008, 01:09 PM
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pull or drift
There's nothing in that printout that would make the car pull, it's not the way I would align an EVO but it's not far off. 5 degrees out is nothing. Rotate the tires again. 
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Sep 20, 2008, 01:17 PM
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The negative camber on the LF and LR is not helping you, and probably a contributing factor to your problem. Most alignment shops play with the camber and caster to offset the effects of road crown (road slopes to the right shoulder). The camber settings you currently have, along with the road crown is taking the car to the right.
If the more negative camber was on thr RF and RR, this would most likely work with the road crown to get the car straight down the road.
One question: Does the car pull more to the right after the most recent alignment?
If the more negative camber was on thr RF and RR, this would most likely work with the road crown to get the car straight down the road.
One question: Does the car pull more to the right after the most recent alignment?
Sep 22, 2008, 02:07 PM
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Sep 24, 2008, 08:10 PM
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my car goes to the right after my allignment as well, however if the wheel is traight it drives straight, soon as i let go it goes about 5 degrees(steering wheel) to the right and starts to head right...if i'm traveling on the highway and let go, it appears to keep going straight....i swaped the front left and right tires and same issue
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