We're talking about coilovers here, not piggybacks. This conversation is over.

 

Im not going to waste the time to explain this to you, but its called an analogy. Its a form of reasoning.

 

Piggybacks need to be tuned. Properly built coilovers don't. Comprende? Swapping out springs on a near $2k set of coilovers is ridiculous.

 

What's the point of getting coilovers if you don't custom tune them? If you're getting coilovers, then obviously there is some aspect of the stock suspension that you find lacking, and are therefore replacing/upgrading.

The advantage to using coilovers is customizability with multiple dampening and rebound settings that allow you to adjust the car to your driving style. If you just buy coilovers, install them, and pray to god that somehow your car will handle infinitely better... well, then more power to you.

EDIT: Might I add that, this isn't a Civic with crappy suspension - Mitsubishi specifically stated that the suspension on the car was so finely balanced that unless you really knew what you were doing, you'd probably do more harm than good.

 

you did not just post this... lol

 

i have a set of JIC's tuned by John at RRE. They are the ****.

 

This is an informative thread. let's not muck it up.

 

if I were to tune my car for daily driving in southern california with the occassion spirited racing - track or otherwise (on tarmac) what do you recommend as far as a coilover set for a beginner driver (just started driving stick 11k miles ago)? I am looking for an affordable setup (under $3k) that can be properly tuned - so from reading this thread it seems JIC FLTA2 setup is well suited for my needs. Also wondering - when you do a custom setting for suspension are you re-valving or setting the damper rate?

Basically I want a sport-tuned suspension for daily driving just not all extremely raced out, practical with a sense of race settings so I can still race.

Anyone heard about KG/MM coilovers? Also can Cusco Coilovers be tuned?

 

Are you asking about coilovers for your RX-8 or for an Evo 8?

Anyhow, KG/MM coilovers are great on Hondas. Good ride on street with great settings for the track. However, I have not heard of these coilovers being offered on an Evo or RX-8... are they?

Cusco Coilovers can be tuned depending on which setup you get and their individual adjustability. What you can do is get a setup that has dampers with a really wide range of adjustments from really stiff settings to fairly soft ones. Once you get that done you can get custom springs that are only a little stiffer than the stock springs. This way you can set you your car to soft settings while tooling around town and firm it up when you attack the canyons.

Let us know what you decide.

 

Sal KG has a EVO fitting out now. I agree totally what you said

 

Value: Just for informational purposes, do you know the specifications on the KG/MM coilovers? Pics?

Thanks a million.

 

I have had JIC's and Tein's. Don't waste your money on them, Spend the extra couple of hundred dollars and get HKS, Cusco, Ohlins. I have the HKS on right now and they are 1000 times better than the JIC's. If you look around I am sure you can get them somewhere for less than $2000.

 

Do you know what's the spring rates on the HKS? which model is it and valve size? Just curious whats you opinion based on, track events, solo or street. Thanks in advance.

 

Spring rates for the Hipermax II are 7kg/mm front 6kg/mm rear. I haven't used them on the track yet, will go in about a month to Buttonwillow.

 

Wait a minute..... I'm pretty certain that suspensions "need" to be setup properly, or "tuned" if you will, in order to get the best results. I know for a fact that an improperly chosen or installed setup can really screw up a cars handling........ I don't know about swaping springs in an already "matched" setup of coil-overs, springs, etc., but it does make sense to tune the suspension properly. Isn't that why they make all those ajustable setups? Is it not likely that they can be adjusted improperly as well as properly?