View Poll Results: What coil over is better for street and once a month track use?
Tein Flex
66
24.54%
Tein SS
15
5.58%
HK hypermax II
38
14.13%
Cusco Zero 2R
62
23.05%
JIC FLT A-2
88
32.71%
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coil over poll. Working Poll this time
Evolving Member
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From: Seattle, WA
Originally posted by silverEVO8
Wait a minute..... I'm pretty certain that suspensions "need" to be setup properly, or "tuned" if you will, in order to get the best results. I know for a fact that an improperly chosen or installed setup can really screw up a cars handling........ I don't know about swaping springs in an already "matched" setup of coil-overs, springs, etc., but it does make sense to tune the suspension properly. Isn't that why they make all those ajustable setups? Is it not likely that they can be adjusted improperly as well as properly?
Wait a minute..... I'm pretty certain that suspensions "need" to be setup properly, or "tuned" if you will, in order to get the best results. I know for a fact that an improperly chosen or installed setup can really screw up a cars handling........ I don't know about swaping springs in an already "matched" setup of coil-overs, springs, etc., but it does make sense to tune the suspension properly. Isn't that why they make all those ajustable setups? Is it not likely that they can be adjusted improperly as well as properly?
Originally posted by SOF
The key word here is need. You can't just plug in a piggyback and expect your car to run without blowing up. Like you said, coilovers are already pre-matched, the adjustments are for fine tuning. Your car won't blow up with an un-fine-tuned set of coilovers.
The key word here is need. You can't just plug in a piggyback and expect your car to run without blowing up. Like you said, coilovers are already pre-matched, the adjustments are for fine tuning. Your car won't blow up with an un-fine-tuned set of coilovers.
Likewise, you can definitely lose control, wreck and possibly destroy a car by driving it with improperly adjusted or mismatched suspension parts.
You will not blow up a car with a "fine tuned" piggy-back no more than you'll lose control with a "fine tuned" set of coil overs.....
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From: Seattle, WA
Originally posted by silverEVO8
Hmmm.... Not really sure about that. Almost any piggy-back (all that I know about) can be safely installed without any danger as long as they are installed properly and left in the "zero change" or default condition.
Hmmm.... Not really sure about that. Almost any piggy-back (all that I know about) can be safely installed without any danger as long as they are installed properly and left in the "zero change" or default condition.
Originally posted by SOF
If you set it at zero that's the same thing as not having installed it in the first place! omfg......
If you set it at zero that's the same thing as not having installed it in the first place! omfg......
So it's actually riskier to upgrade a suspension than to just install a piggy back
Think of it this way. If you shell out $2000 for a high-end set of coilovers, and you're not fine tuning them, then why are you buying them? For the bling factor?
If you are going to spend that much then obviously you have a clear idea of what you want out of an improved suspension system (e.g., you've pushed the stock suspension to the limits and you don't think it's good enough).
If you are going to spend that much then obviously you have a clear idea of what you want out of an improved suspension system (e.g., you've pushed the stock suspension to the limits and you don't think it's good enough).
Originally posted by zstryder
Think of it this way. If you shell out $2000 for a high-end set of coilovers, and you're not fine tuning them, then why are you buying them? For the bling factor?
If you are going to spend that much then obviously you have a clear idea of what you want out of an improved suspension system (e.g., you've pushed the stock suspension to the limits and you don't think it's good enough).
Think of it this way. If you shell out $2000 for a high-end set of coilovers, and you're not fine tuning them, then why are you buying them? For the bling factor?
If you are going to spend that much then obviously you have a clear idea of what you want out of an improved suspension system (e.g., you've pushed the stock suspension to the limits and you don't think it's good enough).
Originally posted by SOF
Piggybacks need to be tuned. Properly built coilovers don't. Comprende? Swapping out springs on a near $2k set of coilovers is ridiculous.
Piggybacks need to be tuned. Properly built coilovers don't. Comprende? Swapping out springs on a near $2k set of coilovers is ridiculous.
Re: coil over poll. Working Poll this time
Originally posted by w2pac12345
This poll is for the best coil over for street and track use once a month. I dont mind a harsh ride either. Price I want to spend is around $1700 or less.
Please explain your reason for choosing the coil over you chose.
Also last question why is the Tein SS only $1100 compared to the other for $1700 what makes the other ones better?
This poll is for the best coil over for street and track use once a month. I dont mind a harsh ride either. Price I want to spend is around $1700 or less.
Please explain your reason for choosing the coil over you chose.
Also last question why is the Tein SS only $1100 compared to the other for $1700 what makes the other ones better?
I'm comming in late on this but...the JIC fa2's with the "from the factory" set up and the tuned by John Mueller at RRE same set up are NIGHT AND DAY different...and over 10 seconds faster than the stock setup (and I mean fully stock no rear bar) at Thunderhill there were other systems up there and no EVO got within 5 seconds of the RRE/Mueller setup...They work and while not plush are easy to drive on the street too...(I optimized for the track)
Originally posted by evoracerx
I have had JIC's and Tein's. Don't waste your money on them, Spend the extra couple of hundred dollars and get HKS, Cusco, Ohlins. I have the HKS on right now and they are 1000 times better than the JIC's. If you look around I am sure you can get them somewhere for less than $2000.
I have had JIC's and Tein's. Don't waste your money on them, Spend the extra couple of hundred dollars and get HKS, Cusco, Ohlins. I have the HKS on right now and they are 1000 times better than the JIC's. If you look around I am sure you can get them somewhere for less than $2000.
Also is the camber adjustable?
Originally posted by evoracerx
30 way adjustable, with camber plates on the front
30 way adjustable, with camber plates on the front
Originally posted by robi
I'm comming in late on this but...the JIC fa2's with the "from the factory" set up and the tuned by John Mueller at RRE same set up are NIGHT AND DAY different...and over 10 seconds faster than the stock setup (and I mean fully stock no rear bar) at Thunderhill there were other systems up there and no EVO got within 5 seconds of the RRE/Mueller setup...They work and while not plush are easy to drive on the street too...(I optimized for the track)
I'm comming in late on this but...the JIC fa2's with the "from the factory" set up and the tuned by John Mueller at RRE same set up are NIGHT AND DAY different...and over 10 seconds faster than the stock setup (and I mean fully stock no rear bar) at Thunderhill there were other systems up there and no EVO got within 5 seconds of the RRE/Mueller setup...They work and while not plush are easy to drive on the street too...(I optimized for the track)
When you say 10 seconds faster at Thill, what was the lap time of RRE/Mueller setup.
Also what other mods where on the car?
Steve