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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Let me clear things up for you. I dont care what you do short of gutting your car to drop weight *ANYTHING* involving the stock ct9a calipers is substandard brakes as far as i'm concerned.
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okay:



so my setup is okay because i'm not in "stock form" even though i'm not using a BBK?. so you are saying the stock setup won't hold up to hard track driving? or...? which is it?



even going back four years, this thread and the post you refer to mentions, "The Evo brakes WILL fade in stock form and they are not as strong."

so are you talking about stock brakes (pads/fluids/etc) or the caliper and rotors themselves? you are using an old thread that shows the shortcomings of the OEM brake setup as proof that those of us with upgraded fluids and pads are being ridiculous.
you can't compare off-the-show-room evo brakes to a BBK on any car.
Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimgrak
Let me clear things up for you. I dont care what you do short of gutting your car to drop weight *ANYTHING* involving the stock ct9a calipers is substandard brakes as far as i'm concerned.
fair enough. i think certain parts on the car could stand to be swapped out too, just my opinion though. you should see the front sway bar/rear sway bar debate LOL
if my substandard brakes ever fail me, then i'll look into options. until then, so far so good!

Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:15 PM
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I had another track day today at Thunderhill raceway with zero fade on stock brembos on my heavy *** Evo 10.

Yay for all the things and this thread that won't die.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I had another track day today at Thunderhill raceway with zero fade on stock brembos on my heavy *** Evo 10.

Yay for all the things and this thread that won't die.

movies are like $11 now.. this is free
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Or simply cheat the SCCA rule book and put X rotors and calipers on your 8/9... Noticeably stronger brake power and honestly no fade with good pads.

A very cost effective upgrade from oem 8/9
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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Yes because this thread title with ct9a talks about the turd that is the X.
Kaj they must not like r35's run in the same class as you on your track then if you dont have to point anyone by or your just lieing.
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I had another track day today at Thunderhill raceway with zero fade on stock brembos on my heavy *** Evo 10.

Yay for all the things and this thread that won't die.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 02:35 PM
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Yes because this thread title with ct9a talks about the turd that is the X.
Kaj they must not like r35's run in the same class as you on your track then if you dont have to point anyone by or your just lieing.
I had the same experience with my Evo 8 as well.

You have been such a nice guy and so open to others people input in this thread, I really wonder why people have been giving you a hard time.

sarcasm

I love all these new evo owners that ask questions for input and then when there is input given that doesn't align with what they already made up their mind about, they get all defensive and tell people they are wrong and basically throw a tantrum.

P.S. I also had a point by from a R35 GTR at the track yesterday. Unless I just dreamed about it or am dishonest and lie to make friends on the internet. Some words of wisdom, cars don't drive themselves. I'm sure I could lap a Ferrari FXX with a sub par driver and a good driver in a R35 GTR could be faster than my stock turbo Evo 10. Open your mind a little on the possibilities of the world.

I always hated instructing people like you on track.

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart004
Or simply cheat the SCCA rule book and put X rotors and calipers on your 8/9... Noticeably stronger brake power and honestly no fade with good pads.

A very cost effective upgrade from oem 8/9
interesting. if they bolt right up, they are the same size? if so, what's the advantage? good to know of another OEM option.


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Kaj they must not like r35's run in the same class as you on your track then if you dont have to point anyone by or your just lieing.
crap. he's on to me, guys.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
interesting. if they bolt right up, they are the same size? if so, what's the advantage?
The rotors and calipers are larger than the Evo 7/8/9. However, the front pads are the exact same size as the 7/8/9

The calipers don't bolt right up, you have to bore out the caliper holes. Not a biggie though.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
The rotors and calipers are larger than the Evo 7/8/9. However, the front pads are the exact same size as the 7/8/9

The calipers don't bolt right up, you have to bore out the caliper holes. Not a biggie though.
that's easy. i was wondering about rotor diameter, etc.
if i know anyone needing to replace OEM brakes, it's a definite option, seeing how there should be plenty avail, for a few years.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Don't you need 18" wheels?

Originally Posted by razorlab
The rotors and calipers are larger than the Evo 7/8/9. However, the front pads are the exact same size as the 7/8/9

The calipers don't bolt right up, you have to bore out the caliper holes. Not a biggie though.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
that's easy. i was wondering about rotor diameter, etc.
Evo 10:

13.8" front rotors
13.0" rear rotors

Evo 8/9:

12.6" front rotors
11.8" rear rotors

So basically the rear Evo 10 rotors are even larger than the front Evo 8/9 rotors.

Originally Posted by alleggerita
Don't you need 18" wheels?
Yes you would need 18" wheels. I also think the rears would not fit the 8/9 without more changes than just a simple hub mount bore change like the fronts.

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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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I can't believe I actually read all of this crap.

OP is a keyboard racer.

"120-5mph" lol.
"**** all these people with published track records, winning seasons of Time Attack and W2W, I obviously drive better than them." lol

And I know you just ignore blatant real-world evidence, but with a fatass car and a fatass me, I brake 155-40 consistently at ACS and have no issues on, guess what, stock brakes. In a 20 minute session, I would run into fuel starve before brake issues.

Instead of telling us to "come beat my track time that I claim to run bro," post a video of your driving so we can let you know what you're doing wrong.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
The rotors and calipers are larger than the Evo 7/8/9. However, the front pads are the exact same size as the 7/8/9

The calipers don't bolt right up, you have to bore out the caliper holes. Not a biggie though.
The calipers are actually exactly the same save for the mounting points (larger diameter bolts and spaced for larger rotors). I used to think the actual caliper design was better until my friend who's a powdercoater literally showed me the pistons and seals are interchangeable. Thats not to say you can't benefit from a larger rotor with mechanical braking advantage and thermal dissipation advantages.

The fronts you drill out the hub's mounting points to M14 if I remember correctly and get rid of the stock dust shield. The rears I don't think anyone has bothered because of the e-brake differences.



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