CBRD Tune ECUFlash
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ECU Tuning by G/Force (using ECUTek)
If you want to complain, go complain to the magazine company that wrote the article and showed screen shots of all the ECUTek maps. All I was doing was quoting the names of the maps since the scales and values were identical. Of course the maps are the same but none of the maps in ECUFlash were referenced from ECUTek while finding them.
How would anyone know what Ecutek calls it unless someone is divulging Ecutek info.
So this is what it comes down to now, referencing Ecutek info to find a solution for an Ecuflash issue?
I was always under the impression that the object of the Open ecu stuff was to do something seperate and apart of the Ecutek SW etc.
Well we have tuned a ton of evo 10s with Ecutek SW and these problems do not exist. They spent alot of time and money to make a seamless product that can be delivered to customers without "bricking" ecus.
Sean
So this is what it comes down to now, referencing Ecutek info to find a solution for an Ecuflash issue?
I was always under the impression that the object of the Open ecu stuff was to do something seperate and apart of the Ecutek SW etc.
Well we have tuned a ton of evo 10s with Ecutek SW and these problems do not exist. They spent alot of time and money to make a seamless product that can be delivered to customers without "bricking" ecus.
Sean
To me its like stealing someone's work - shameful
adjustment of those tables (which may or may not be a air/tq limiter)
has helped some but if you adjust too much it causes the same issue.
BDEL has to be adjusted as well and a few other little things
The biggest issues right knoware trying to figure out what these tables do and why. Most tuners just use an EBC or MBC and let the cel's happen. (car still runs pretty much the same)
Personally i think we will have this nailed down in a few weeks
has helped some but if you adjust too much it causes the same issue.
BDEL has to be adjusted as well and a few other little things
The biggest issues right knoware trying to figure out what these tables do and why. Most tuners just use an EBC or MBC and let the cel's happen. (car still runs pretty much the same)
Personally i think we will have this nailed down in a few weeks
im hopeful we can get cobb dialed in, thats my true goal for tuning these cars, they just have some things to resolve.
cb
adjustment of those tables (which may or may not be a air/tq limiter)
has helped some but if you adjust too much it causes the same issue.
BDEL has to be adjusted as well and a few other little things
The biggest issues right knoware trying to figure out what these tables do and why. Most tuners just use an EBC or MBC and let the cel's happen. (car still runs pretty much the same)
Personally i think we will have this nailed down in a few weeks
has helped some but if you adjust too much it causes the same issue.
BDEL has to be adjusted as well and a few other little things
The biggest issues right knoware trying to figure out what these tables do and why. Most tuners just use an EBC or MBC and let the cel's happen. (car still runs pretty much the same)
Personally i think we will have this nailed down in a few weeks
Thats interesting to hear
Ecutek has had these matters sorted out for over 6 months
We have not had one cel in any customer car we have tuned with ecutek
I only have tuned a small group of cars with Cobb AP but had no problem with that system either
Al
As a fellow Cobb Pro Tuner I have no problem to steer you in the right direction - however - what ever I share with you - please don't post it on the internet
As pro tuners guys like Sean and myself spend months and months doing testing and R & D - thats why we at my shop bought our own Evo X. It takes a lot of effprt to sort out how all the maps work. last thing I want to do is go through all the hard work only to have some guy who is selling $49 email flashes just steal our work and ***** out the market.
Al
What things are you talking about ?
As a fellow Cobb Pro Tuner I have no problem to steer you in the right direction - however - what ever I share with you - please don't post it on the internet
As pro tuners guys like Sean and myself spend months and months doing testing and R & D - thats why we at my shop bought our own Evo X. It takes a lot of effprt to sort out how all the maps work. last thing I want to do is go through all the hard work only to have some guy who is selling $49 email flashes just steal our work and ***** out the market.
Al
As a fellow Cobb Pro Tuner I have no problem to steer you in the right direction - however - what ever I share with you - please don't post it on the internet
As pro tuners guys like Sean and myself spend months and months doing testing and R & D - thats why we at my shop bought our own Evo X. It takes a lot of effprt to sort out how all the maps work. last thing I want to do is go through all the hard work only to have some guy who is selling $49 email flashes just steal our work and ***** out the market.
Al
i do agree (dave and I spoke in short about your comments towards me last week)....
i have all the info on cobb i need (even from cobb right now).. and im working with john from hb speed, jeff perrin, bryan from GST, and the guys from cobb to get things resolved.
cb
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. What's the harm in mentioning the names of a couple of tables in ecutek? For the benefit of the community, we are all trying to share info, tuners and enthusiasts alike, that will help solve this issue and result in better quality tunes for everyone, so chill out bro. 
No one's trying to steal or hurt anyone's business.
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Oh give me a break. You act like he is telling ecutek secrets that will put you out of business or something . What's the harm in mentioning the names of a couple of tables in ecutek? For the benefit of the community, we are all trying to share info, tuners and enthusiasts alike, that will help solve this issue and result in better quality tunes for everyone, so chill out bro. No one's trying to steal or hurt anyone's business.
. What's the harm in mentioning the names of a couple of tables in ecutek? For the benefit of the community, we are all trying to share info, tuners and enthusiasts alike, that will help solve this issue and result in better quality tunes for everyone, so chill out bro. No one's trying to steal or hurt anyone's business.Obviously he did not rear the application end user license agreement
Ecutek spent a lot of money to make a tuning product and service the tuners with all the data to properly tune the cars - its not legal or ethical for a Ecutek partner to give this information away to anyone - period - its stollen data
It would be great to "share" a free copy of every movie that comes out without paying also for the benefit of the "community" - sadly though if there were no ticket sales then there would be no movie to watch
Sorry for being off topic but I think you're all blowing this out of proportion. If the names of the maps in ECUTek must be kept secret then I'm sorry. Maybe you should report the company that published the maps in the magazine instead of making it sound like I'm the one that let out the ECUTek "secrets". Are fuel, mivec, and timing maps secret too?? Or are they okay to mention on forums because they are old maps??
I understand you want to protect your investments but to tune an Evo with whatever software, you'll eventually be tuning the same maps whatever the names are.
BTW, if you want to talk about piracy or illegally using data, ECUTek disassembles and lets you modify Mitsubishi's patent ROM and that is known as "hacking" from where I come. Did you know that to sell a hacked (tuned) Mitsubishi ROM is also known as copyright infringement?
I understand you want to protect your investments but to tune an Evo with whatever software, you'll eventually be tuning the same maps whatever the names are.
BTW, if you want to talk about piracy or illegally using data, ECUTek disassembles and lets you modify Mitsubishi's patent ROM and that is known as "hacking" from where I come. Did you know that to sell a hacked (tuned) Mitsubishi ROM is also known as copyright infringement?
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oh give me a break. You act like he is telling ecutek secrets that will put you out of business or something . What's the harm in mentioning the names of a couple of tables in ecutek? For the benefit of the community, we are all trying to share info, tuners and enthusiasts alike, that will help solve this issue and result in better quality tunes for everyone, so chill out bro. No one's trying to steal or hurt anyone's business.
. What's the harm in mentioning the names of a couple of tables in ecutek? For the benefit of the community, we are all trying to share info, tuners and enthusiasts alike, that will help solve this issue and result in better quality tunes for everyone, so chill out bro. No one's trying to steal or hurt anyone's business.
BTW, if you want to talk about piracy or illegally using data, ECUTek disassembles and lets you modify Mitsubishi's patent ROM and that is known as "hacking" from where I come. Did you know that to sell a hacked (tuned) Mitsubishi ROM is also known as copyright infringement?
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Sorry for being off topic but I think you're all blowing this out of proportion. If the names of the maps in ECUTek must be kept secret then I'm sorry. Maybe you should report the company that published the maps in the magazine instead of making it sound like I'm the one that let out the ECUTek "secrets". Are fuel, mivec, and timing maps secret too?? Or are they okay to mention on forums because they are old maps??
I understand you want to protect your investments but to tune an Evo with whatever software, you'll eventually be tuning the same maps whatever the names are.
BTW, if you want to talk about piracy or illegally using data, ECUTek disassembles and lets you modify Mitsubishi's patent ROM and that is known as "hacking" from where I come. Did you know that to sell a hacked (tuned) Mitsubishi ROM is also known as copyright infringement?
I understand you want to protect your investments but to tune an Evo with whatever software, you'll eventually be tuning the same maps whatever the names are.
BTW, if you want to talk about piracy or illegally using data, ECUTek disassembles and lets you modify Mitsubishi's patent ROM and that is known as "hacking" from where I come. Did you know that to sell a hacked (tuned) Mitsubishi ROM is also known as copyright infringement?
Actually your information is incorrect about Ecutek and Mitsubishi. Ecutek works with Mitsubishi which is also why their development comes along so much faster than everyone else's.
I see both sides of the arguement other than that.
I see both sides of the arguement other than that.