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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Ok here we go...

This Evo 10 came back in after addressing some fuel delivery problems.

For the back history on this Evo 10 on E85 see the 1st post in this thread.

parts added since last time:

Walboro Fuel Pump upgrade (maxed out the stock one on E85)
Forge wastegate actuator
Pierburg 3port boost solenoid

Fuel control came back. Went from shooting up to 13.5 AFR at 6500 last time to 10.1 AFR this time on the base run.

The single 3port boost solenoid gave up nothing to the stock two solenoid arrangement and added control and precision over the factory 2port (the same things we always see when upgrading to a 3port in the Evo 8/9)

The Forge Wastegate helped to hold more boost. However, the stock turbo is now done within this arrangement @ 41lb. The airflow would just flat line and the turbo would supply no more flow.

Keep in mind everything is still just bolt ons, no porting, a quiet "stealth" exhaust and still stock cams.

This time around it made:

380whp / 371wtq

Great power for a Evo 10 on the stock turbo and cams so far on our dyno.



and boost before with stock actuator and stock solenoids:



You can see I tuned in 1psi-2psi more in the low and midrange over last time. From 5500 on, the stock boost control system was maxed out 100% duty cycle before. You can see now with the upgraded WGA and 3port I was able to get almost 2 more psi out of it 5500 to redline
This Evo is coming back in soon for a retune with a FPred. Stay tuned!
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Props to that guy for being the guinea pig for all of us!
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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very good stuff..how are the 950cc holding up
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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10.0 to 1 seems a bit rich for E85. Is that where it made the most power? It seems mid to high 11's works best for me, but then again I'm on a larger turbo with a decent size intercooler.
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyin EVO 2
10.0 to 1 seems a bit rich for E85. Is that where it made the most power? It seems mid to high 11's works best for me, but then again I'm on a larger turbo with a decent size intercooler.
Where are you seeing AFR on this car? Yes 10:1 AFR on a gasoline wideband on E85 is pig ignition misfire rich.

EDIT: You must be talking about this:

Originally Posted by GST Motorsports

Fuel control came back. Went from shooting up to 13.5 AFR at 6500 last time to 10.1 AFR this time on the base run.

It means the car gave back fuel control with pump upgrade. That was the base run after putting the pump in, it was then tuned for the upgraded pump.

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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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what is the full parts list on this car???
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo a Mula
what is the full parts list on this car???
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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damn!
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Where are you seeing AFR on this car? Yes 10:1 AFR on a gasoline wideband on E85 is pig ignition misfire rich.

EDIT: You must be talking about this:




It means the car gave back fuel control with pump upgrade. That was the base run after putting the pump in, it was then tuned for the upgraded pump.
Bryan,

You mention AFR on a gasoline wideband...is my AEM UEGO useless if I decide to run E85? Thanks.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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Very nice power
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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You can use the AEM UEGO with E85. It says so in the uego instructions.

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
Bryan,

You mention AFR on a gasoline wideband...is my AEM UEGO useless if I decide to run E85? Thanks.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Good work!
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
Bryan,

You mention AFR on a gasoline wideband...is my AEM UEGO useless if I decide to run E85? Thanks.
Nope it works just fine, I just mention gasoline wideband so there is no confusion in sharing AFR numbers.

I usually tune with it in Gasoline scaling as it's easier to react with numbers you know after seeing them for 20years, than new AFR scaling.

Some people prefer Lambda but I use what I am used to as it allows me to take my foot out that much quicker.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoX_SA
You can use the AEM UEGO with E85. It says so in the uego instructions.
Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Nope it works just fine, I just mention gasoline wideband so there is no confusion in sharing AFR numbers.

I usually tune with it in Gasoline scaling as it's easier to react with numbers you know after seeing them for 20years, than new AFR scaling.

Some people prefer Lambda but I use what I am used to as it allows me to take my foot out that much quicker.
Thanks.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Aww man! The E85 Love <3

Thanks!

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