Did you get any runs on pump gas? I am looking towards the EF2 on my stock bottom but I only have 91 to sometimes 93 available where I am at and am curious to your numbers without the meth? Thanks

 

Kracka, since this thread has popped back up: How have your EFs held through the years? There's been a bit on controversy lately over the EF turbos failing much sooner than they should.

 

yeah any updates?

 

No issues to speak of! MAP made a ton of changes/revisions since the original EF-series turbochargers debuted, all in the name of reliability and durability. I'd put their turbos second to none, people just need to remember that aftermarket turbochargers will always have a higher failure rate than OEM since they're pushed much harder. I sold the car back in March with 70k miles on it and it treated me well. I always ran Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10W-30 with 5k change intervals and gave it a few seconds to cool down before shutting off the engine. I reused the factory oil line.

 

From what I've seen locally, the MHI 18K makes the power of an EF2, but spools like the EF2.5. One locally needed cams to even hit 400+whp on 93-octane (my EF2 did that on stock cams...same dyno & tuner). Otherwise, our setups were very similar with full bolt-ons.

Blue = local MHI 18K w/Kelford-B cams
Red = my MAP EF2 (stock cams)
Green = my MAP EF2.5 (stock cams)


Now imagine if either of my setups had cams too

 

What is really crazy is that your ef2 made only 16whp less than my red on a built motor including cams. Same Dyno

 

Looking back your Ef 2.5 made 8 more hp than my red and here are my mods:

Fp red ported
Turbosmart 22psi wastegate
Ported head
Milspec 64mm tb
Dw1300 injectors
Aem 320 e85 fuel pump
Invidia cat back exhaust
Ams downpipe
Ams test pipe
Ets intake
Ets licp/uicp
Map rev 2 intake manifold
Cosworth mx1 cams
Cosworth valve springs
Wiseco 1400hd pistons
Manley h beam rods
Depo 4in fmic
arp main studs
arp head studs
acl main bearings
acl rod bearings

 

When you say same dyno, do you mean Cobbs? If not ignore it, your car made more power.

 

Same dyno, same tuner...he was local to me at the time. If you ever drive down I'll pay for your dyno runs just to prove you wrong and shut you up My cars have been on DB's DynoDynamics, MAP's DynoJet, Cobb's Mustang, plus other local Mustang dynos. What more proof do you need? Guess where Cobb's reads? Within 3% of the other local Mustang. The last dyno day down here someone actually did a pull at Cobb then drove to the dyno day...< 1% variance. Anyway, enough is enough, it got old years ago yet you continue to hate for no reason other than to bash a shop you for some unknown reason don't care for. Maybe because your car barely makes it out of the garage these past few years? Just a thought.

 

His sig said FL, so I assumed it was a different dyno.

That is a long way to prove something I already know is true I will never be silenced! muhahahahaha.

I suppose I could strap it on Ron's Dyno, make 400 then go down there and make 450whp...but that is a lot of driving. Maybe this next fall or something it will be a good vacation or something. I don't want to go when its hot.

edit: And if his car made less power, something had to be off. I am not knocking your ef2 or 2.5 setup kracka, it was well setup but his mod list suggests he should've been making quite a bit more power, something there seems fishy.

 

He was local at the time, but has since moved. I love how you know something as fact, yet have never been to the shop or even ridden in a car they have touched.

I encourage you to drive down anytime, and will be very interested in seeing the results because I know exactly how they'll end up

 

I know the man who set them up who has been there as do you. And yes, I take his word over many others

Regardless, I don't really care much to squabble over dyno numbers anymore. one of the reasons I like my VD now, as I just tell everyone the numbers are potentially bogus up front then no arguments can be made. I enjoyed wasting time talking about numbers when i first joined the forums but its become tiresome and no one wins. It's a tool and the only true measurement is the same dyno same day. Otherwise its to be tossed out the window in my book.

Your setup was great and the fpred guy had a nice mod list as well, both cars are probably plenty fast and we can all enjoy fast evos.

 

I love him as much as the next guy, but he had nothing to do with the dyno setup @ Plano

Agreed 100% on dynos being a tool that shouldn't be compared against anything but the same dyno.

 

Cobbs dyno reads like like an uncorrected dyno jet

 

Incorrect. I had my IX on both MAP's Dynojet and Cobb's Mustang; not even close. I've also had my Corvette on Cobb's dyno and another local Dynojet...