Low-Load High Knock Explained
weird phenomenon.
Evo VIII on e85 getting high knock counts, with evoscan in low rpms 2800-3200 rpms....
Above 3200 I can rip on the car without a count... below and gradually rises.
Tried changing the timing, both down then up. Nothing happened, same response, Leaned it out a bit, and nothing happened. back to timing and nothing.
I'm just stumped... Only other issue I hear is my power steering pump, which wines like a dying bird... thought that could be setting it off but I won't know till I replace it.
Got M2's, 16g, and fullrace header.
Evo VIII on e85 getting high knock counts, with evoscan in low rpms 2800-3200 rpms....
Above 3200 I can rip on the car without a count... below and gradually rises.
Tried changing the timing, both down then up. Nothing happened, same response, Leaned it out a bit, and nothing happened. back to timing and nothing.
I'm just stumped... Only other issue I hear is my power steering pump, which wines like a dying bird... thought that could be setting it off but I won't know till I replace it.
Got M2's, 16g, and fullrace header.
I've seen similar behavior (although usually under 10 knock sum) at low rpm/load. Sometimes I can repeat it a few times in a row, and other times not so easily. It seems to do it about half the time. Did you figure anything out? I tried reducing timing by 1-2 degrees but it didn't help. The stock timing map in that low rpm/load region jumps a lot. I tried to smooth it out, but maybe it needs to be made even smoother? Not sure why mitsu did what they did in that region for timing, so I didn't want to mess with it too much.
If I understand correctly, the knock sensor is doing it's job in filtering sound that logically equates to "knock". Under light load, while the knock detection is viable the actual event is moot b/c it lacks the ability to cause any damage. However, under heavy load you do not want the knock sensors ability to detect such conditions minimized...
I just can say, you cant get knock at 1700-2000rpm on zero Boost and 15-17degree of timing (talking about stock evo engines) . I have 30-35degree of timing at this point with no knock.
Last time i have run the evo X i have noticed something realy unusual. It was doing noises like it has ALS activated, but it was nearly stock X-SST. Car has missfired and poped into the exhaust, like ALS. I can imagine that could cause some noise on knock sensor.
Last time i have run the evo X i have noticed something realy unusual. It was doing noises like it has ALS activated, but it was nearly stock X-SST. Car has missfired and poped into the exhaust, like ALS. I can imagine that could cause some noise on knock sensor.
My mazda does the same thing, logging with AP I can see part throttle knock at3.6k rpm ONLY when the car is still warming up. After the first 20miles it goes away. Looking at my map in ATR, 3.6k rpm is where theres a load increase.
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