Motec Install on Stock EVO X :)
Didn't AMS run a Motec in there Evo X Time Attack car? Would be nice if the tuner, or some of them, chime in on the advantages/disadvantages on the Motec at that level. 
This community has come a long way with the stock ecu, but for the 5% or less in the community that need to run something like a Motec or Pectel SQ6, it is great that they are willing to come on and share of what they have going on
This community has come a long way with the stock ecu, but for the 5% or less in the community that need to run something like a Motec or Pectel SQ6, it is great that they are willing to come on and share of what they have going on
Didn't AMS run a Motec in there Evo X Time Attack car? Would be nice if the tuner, or some of them, chime in on the advantages/disadvantages on the Motec at that level.
This community has come a long way with the stock ecu, but for the 5% or less in the community that need to run something like a Motec or Pectel SQ6, it is great that they are willing to come on and share of what they have going on
This community has come a long way with the stock ecu, but for the 5% or less in the community that need to run something like a Motec or Pectel SQ6, it is great that they are willing to come on and share of what they have going on
There are a lot of advantages to the Motec over the stock ECU as most people have said. I am not going to cover them as they have already been said but really the stock ECU will never be a Motec. I am NOT saying the stock Ecu isnt fine 95% of the time just saying the Motec can do really whatever you want it to.
Mitch
I'm pretty shocked at the guys trying to justify that a stock ECU is in any way comparable or as capable as the Motec. That just shows the lack of experience with the system.
I am not sure where to start with what you CAN do with the Motec, and all the stuff you CANT to with the stock ECU. I put a Motec on one of my cars and will never run anything else. My car made more power, drove better, and the first time down the track the launch control was better than what we were previously using. We set the strain gage up on the shifter and it worked first hit. We use front wheel, rear wheel, trans speed sensor, and input shaft speed....it tells me when the clutch slips. I can add fuel based on steering angle changes and anything else you can think up.
I got seriously fed up with my stock ECU and cumbersome editing software....just tired of stuff not working like its supposed to. Ordered an M800 for my X and yes you can get rid of the MAF and drive by wire so easy. This is a real computer. What can't you do with it?
I am not sure where to start with what you CAN do with the Motec, and all the stuff you CANT to with the stock ECU. I put a Motec on one of my cars and will never run anything else. My car made more power, drove better, and the first time down the track the launch control was better than what we were previously using. We set the strain gage up on the shifter and it worked first hit. We use front wheel, rear wheel, trans speed sensor, and input shaft speed....it tells me when the clutch slips. I can add fuel based on steering angle changes and anything else you can think up.
I got seriously fed up with my stock ECU and cumbersome editing software....just tired of stuff not working like its supposed to. Ordered an M800 for my X and yes you can get rid of the MAF and drive by wire so easy. This is a real computer. What can't you do with it?
Last edited by DRAG; Dec 11, 2013 at 02:03 PM.
It's not that the motec isn't the bees knees. Its that for 99 percent of people the stock ecu is better equipped to do the job at hand.
If you go full race car, yes motec will crush it. But even finding a person to set up and tune a motec is difficult for most people.
If you go full race car, yes motec will crush it. But even finding a person to set up and tune a motec is difficult for most people.
digging up a thread from the graveyard.
i would throw a motec in mine if it was:
1. cheaper
2. easier (nearly plug and play).
3. completely replaced factory ecu
4. my car was a non daily/race car
so... basically i dont run it but would love to.
i would throw a motec in mine if it was:
1. cheaper
2. easier (nearly plug and play).
3. completely replaced factory ecu
4. my car was a non daily/race car
so... basically i dont run it but would love to.
I did bump an old thread and apologize...I was looking for a long time for Motec topics and was surprised at the lack of talk about it.
I understand for street cars its not required...but for people to make such a big argument against the guys that do choose it is beyond me and that is mostly what i was commenting on.. Its expensive...so are engines. Look at all the blown up stuff you guys have on here lol. Its not the engines in most cases
Finding someone to set it up is as easy as picking up the phone. I called Motec and a couple days later they flew a guy in and we did our thing. Then I flew them to the track a couple weeks later. It was the most laid back racing I've done yet And yes...expensive unfortunately LOL. Cheaper in the long run though.
***I hate that I can't add some good old fashioned cuss words in here for emphasis.
I understand for street cars its not required...but for people to make such a big argument against the guys that do choose it is beyond me and that is mostly what i was commenting on.. Its expensive...so are engines. Look at all the blown up stuff you guys have on here lol. Its not the engines in most cases
Finding someone to set it up is as easy as picking up the phone. I called Motec and a couple days later they flew a guy in and we did our thing. Then I flew them to the track a couple weeks later. It was the most laid back racing I've done yet
And yes...expensive unfortunately LOL. Cheaper in the long run though.***I hate that I can't add some good old fashioned cuss words in here for emphasis.
If they had an sst compatible version id buy it today. I bought a HKS vpro harness with hopes of using it to make a piggyback set up like the original poster. The HKS vpro is a piggyback unit and is SST compatible. Too bad the tuning software is proprietary so no one can tune it. If someone can do a piggyback motec on an sst car holla at me.
Also the GEMS has a very good ACD plug and play unit too. Doesnt need ANY modification or fabrication. Also both GEMS does look like an OEM unit. It is a direct swap both case.
I got a tuner from EU to tune it professionally, the car runs like a champ now.
The only bad thing is about GEMS you do really need a pro to tune it. MOTEC is a lot easier to tune. Since they focusing on club level racing too, so it is designed for easier tuning. Perhaps you can even download maps for it.
GEMS usually used by pros only since it is harder to tune (doesnt even come in a gold case, no bling factor
), but the other side of the coin, you get a real pro tune because of the difficulty of the unit to tune it right.You can pick Pectel that is a same story, a bit harder to tune.
Pectel also a Plug and play unit, but more expensive. The give back Pectel today the best ECU out there.
You also can buy Cosworth ECU (which is made by pectel ) but that is still more money then GEMS, designed for club level or motorsport enthusiast.
Easier tune then Pectel or GEMS, but both of them is a better unit for racing.
that is what i gathered when i was on the market for ecus to replace the stock units to satisfy the needs for the car to being competitive.
