The 3xMAP/MAF tables
Yup, use the Evo X figures. Like Bryan @ GST said.
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So I managed to get a pull logging the two input parameters to the load calculation:

Somewhat interesting...
You can see that Load is tracking the lowest value out of MAPCalcs and MAFCalcs...
I have simplified the algorithm somewhat, but thats essentially what is going on.
I dont know whats with the very jump line near peak boost...
The psi graph isn't smooth because I am grouping it with RPM to speed up logging (so the log rate for both is 1/2), I am only logging 4 things, so I am getting 20 rows a second..

Somewhat interesting...
You can see that Load is tracking the lowest value out of MAPCalcs and MAFCalcs...
I have simplified the algorithm somewhat, but thats essentially what is going on.
I dont know whats with the very jump line near peak boost...
The psi graph isn't smooth because I am grouping it with RPM to speed up logging (so the log rate for both is 1/2), I am only logging 4 things, so I am getting 20 rows a second..
So I managed to get a pull logging the two input parameters to the load calculation:

Somewhat interesting...
You can see that Load is tracking the lowest value out of MAPCalcs and MAFCalcs...
I have simplified the algorithm somewhat, but thats essentially what is going on.
I dont know whats with the very jump line near peak boost...
The psi graph isn't smooth because I am grouping it with RPM to speed up logging (so the log rate for both is 1/2), I am only logging 4 things, so I am getting 20 rows a second..

Somewhat interesting...
You can see that Load is tracking the lowest value out of MAPCalcs and MAFCalcs...
I have simplified the algorithm somewhat, but thats essentially what is going on.
I dont know whats with the very jump line near peak boost...
The psi graph isn't smooth because I am grouping it with RPM to speed up logging (so the log rate for both is 1/2), I am only logging 4 things, so I am getting 20 rows a second..
Ps. this with the 4 bar?
The line bounces around because of what is happening at the MAF.
During spool, we are sucking in as much air as possible, in fact we are shoving more air into the system than the engine needs, hence we build pressure . But as soon as we hit our peak boost, we need to stop the turbo from spinning any faster. So we open the waste gate. The system has plenty of air in it to keep a smooth boost curve, but the turbo stops sucking so much air. And the MAF shows that air stopped flowing.
I think the waste gate will actually bounce a bit as it tries to vent some of the exhaust gases. Because there is so much volume in the system, pulsed input will show up smooth in the intake manifold.
So in the end, it is your WGA / WGDC / 3-port that is the cause.
During spool, we are sucking in as much air as possible, in fact we are shoving more air into the system than the engine needs, hence we build pressure . But as soon as we hit our peak boost, we need to stop the turbo from spinning any faster. So we open the waste gate. The system has plenty of air in it to keep a smooth boost curve, but the turbo stops sucking so much air. And the MAF shows that air stopped flowing.
I think the waste gate will actually bounce a bit as it tries to vent some of the exhaust gases. Because there is so much volume in the system, pulsed input will show up smooth in the intake manifold.
So in the end, it is your WGA / WGDC / 3-port that is the cause.
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[youtube]gUK8KkU-8TQ[/youtube]
(write-up coming verrrrry soon!)
ps--no I didn't just sit in my garage and rev it, LOL! I drove around, will be logging and reporting back soon. Just thought I'd share, I know murlo is chomping at the bit for this one.
[youtube]gUK8KkU-8TQ[/youtube]
(write-up coming verrrrry soon!)
ps--no I didn't just sit in my garage and rev it, LOL! I drove around, will be logging and reporting back soon. Just thought I'd share, I know murlo is chomping at the bit for this one.
Last edited by scheides; Sep 24, 2010 at 08:42 PM.
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yes I just did some WOT pulls using the omni4bar.
first thing I noticed when installing is - it didn't nearly holdin as nice as the stock one... hopefully it was just cold...
first thing I noticed when installing is - it didn't nearly holdin as nice as the stock one... hopefully it was just cold...




