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Old Apr 11, 2011, 06:19 AM
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Innovate LM-2 basic log to Evoscan, help

Hey guys,

A friend and I chipped in and got an LM-2 basic, which I now sort of regret. I originally wanted to get an LC-1, but decided the LM-2 could move from car to car so we could tune multiple cars without a dedicated wideband.

The LM-2 works well, but I want it to log in Evoscan, and need to know if any of you have been able to do it with this device?
I would assume we could just buy this cable: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...8&cat=0&page=7

and plug the serial 2.5 (headphone jack looking thing) into the back side of my Tactrix 2.0 cable.

Will this work?

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Noize
Hey guys,

A friend and I chipped in and got an LM-2 basic, which I now sort of regret. I originally wanted to get an LC-1, but decided the LM-2 could move from car to car so we could tune multiple cars without a dedicated wideband.

The LM-2 works well, but I want it to log in Evoscan, and need to know if any of you have been able to do it with this device?
I would assume we could just buy this cable: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...8&cat=0&page=7

and plug the serial 2.5 (headphone jack looking thing) into the back side of my Tactrix 2.0 cable.

Will this work?

Thanks in advance.
That will get you serial for headless logging, but it won't allow you to log in evoscan... you'll need a serial mini-cable to full size and possibly a serial-to-USB.
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doesn't the LM2 come with a serial (DB9) plug?
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Originally Posted by fostytou
That will get you serial for headless logging, but it won't allow you to log in evoscan... you'll need a serial mini-cable to full size and possibly a serial-to-USB.
I don't totally understand why that would be. You mean I could log to a USB card with this with cable only? That would be OK. I just need the WB information sent to my datalogs. I don't want to get a bunch of extra crap I don't need. Right now, I can see the LM-2's readout on the screen, but it would sure be helpful if it was integrated into the logs for precision tuning.

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doesn't the LM2 come with a serial (DB9) plug?
Not the basic.
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When you say you can see it on your screen, do you mean your computer screen?

Have you tried the Innovative setting in EvoScan?

Are you able to log separately with Innovative's software?
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Originally Posted by Golden
When you say you can see it on your screen, do you mean your computer screen?

Have you tried the Innovative setting in EvoScan?

Are you able to log separately with Innovative's software?
Hey Golden,

Thanks so much for replying. I meant that the LM-2 has it's own readout screen, but I don't have any connections to see it on the computer and integrate it with Evoscan. I was hoping that adapter in essence allow it to connect like the LC-1. Thanks.

Seth
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if its the same as the LC1 then it will have a serial bus

the serial bus consists of a serial IN and serial OUT

you plug a terminator into the serial IN (or maybe OUT) then plug a serial cable into the other one

its like a headphone jack that turns into a DB9 connector.

one you get the DB9 connector then you plug that into your computer (or if your computer doesn't have a DB9 serial, get a USB->Serial convertor)

then you can use EvoScan and the Innovate Wideband stuff to log from it..

thats the theory anyways, It should work for LM2 - check ebay for the serial cable:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...9&cat=0&page=1

Ring innovate and see if this part will work with the LM2

LM2 says its supports MTS so it should, and you can get this part:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...8&cat=0&page=1

So it hsould work, but you want the one with the DB9 connector
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David, you are the man! Thank you!
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just confirm that with Innovate thou
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http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=269&page=1
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Just for the record, I wound up finding that standalone logging was tons more useful than being able to plug it into the computer... but it depends on your tuning style and the state of your tune. If you are actively tuning in the car you probably want to use a full db9 and see it in evoscan. If you just go back and clean things up or log on the track then standalone is FTW!

Here is more info on the cable differences (the whole thread pertains to standalone): https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8671130-post86.html
Serial is only 2 pins. Same data, different connector.
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Thats just a standard USB -> mini-USB. Came with every digital camera for about 10 years (and the kit, and the OP2.0). I'm not sure you are implying it should just work out of the box?

*Note: The LM-2 "Basic" Kit out of the box only includes accessories to display your Air/Fuel Ratio either on the meter and/or on your PC. To log RPM, or to Output the wideband signal to an external device you'll need the LM-2 Analog IN/OUT Cable (P/N: 3811) optional accessory.
Two operative things there. I don't have any idea what their software is to display on the PC, but I would think if it was streaming to the PC you could grab that same data with another program.... if not, you need the serial cable. As tephra said: give them a call.
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yeh you gotta decide how you want to log

a) analog to ECU - get the harness
b) digital to OP20 - get the mini serial -> mini serial cable
c) digital to laptop - get the mini serial -> db9 serial cable
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