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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Borescope.
To look at the MAF? Or are you referring to something else?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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for the last 2 weeks i've clicked this thread hoping for a dyno sheet. We are now on the 23rd page and nothing but people arguing about stupid crap.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Well, I had some other ideas of what the problem may be...do any of you know if the MAF can be malfunctioning without throwing CELs?

I know this is going to sound stupid...but the MAF housing was dropped on the shop floor while installing a cone filter prior to the dyno. Could this be the possible cause for all of my problems? The car isn't throwing any codes...just acting like the ECU is completely confused.
swap maf's with someone else.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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To look at the MAF? Or are you referring to something else?
It might be wise to look at the pistons from the scope, particularly if you guys can hear audible detonation.

I am not saying it correlates directly, but when my VIII's 4G63 did like this, the symptoms were identical (major power loss, audible detonation in higher power band that could not be tuned out no matter what I tried). It turned out that car had a hairline crack in the #1 piston.

It should only take 5 minutes to check.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Compression and leakdown testing time.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
It might be wise to look at the pistons from the scope, particularly if you guys can hear audible detonation.

I am not saying it correlates directly, but when my VIII's 4G63 did like this, the symptoms were identical (major power loss, audible detonation in higher power band that could not be tuned out no matter what I tried). It turned out that car had a hairline crack in the #1 piston.

It should only take 5 minutes to check.
Hopefully this isn't the case...car was at 100% rolling into the shop. We'll see this week.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Its killing you guys waiting so here is something to talk about !!!Well we got the chance to test a new product so we did what was asked and put it on our dyno test car and took it to the dyno .

Boost control on theses new turbos is a little strange as far as the pre load required to hold boost is higher than seen on the stock evo x turbo system .The wastegate valves is a larger diameter and is requiring more preload .

The graph show a stock car on V-power 99 octane UK fuel and also the first tune on the new Garrett GT3076R . On the stock actuator with as much preload as possible it peaked at 1.8 bar droppping to just 1.55bar at peak power . This motor and turbo are very very efficent and are working very well from turbo speeds we logged with the Motec.We have a range of new actuators to test to see where we need to be with preload so I fully expect well over 500hp as a target and a real goal most can achieve with simple well planned modifications .

Any questions please ask .
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by evo400
Its killing you guys waiting so here is something to talk about !!!Well we got the chance to test a new product so we did what was asked and put it on our dyno test car and took it to the dyno .

Boost control on theses new turbos is a little strange as far as the pre load required to hold boost is higher than seen on the stock evo x turbo system .The wastegate valves is a larger diameter and is requiring more preload .

The graph show a stock car on V-power 99 octane UK fuel and also the first tune on the new Garrett GT3076R . On the stock actuator with as much preload as possible it peaked at 1.8 bar droppping to just 1.55bar at peak power . This motor and turbo are very very efficent and are working very well from turbo speeds we logged with the Motec.We have a range of new actuators to test to see where we need to be with preload so I fully expect well over 500hp as a target and a real goal most can achieve with simple well planned modifications .

Any questions please ask .
280+ whp on a dyno dynamics!

What other mods does it have?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostd4
Hopefully this isn't the case...car was at 100% rolling into the shop. We'll see this week.
I'm not saying that's it at all. Heck, it is a completely different engine. But you can rule it out with five minutes and a borescope. If nothing else, it will set your mind at ease when everything comes back all clear.

Sorry if I put unnecessary fear in you.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by evo400
Its killing you guys waiting so here is something to talk about !!!Well we got the chance to test a new product so we did what was asked and put it on our dyno test car and took it to the dyno .

Boost control on theses new turbos is a little strange as far as the pre load required to hold boost is higher than seen on the stock evo x turbo system .The wastegate valves is a larger diameter and is requiring more preload .

The graph show a stock car on V-power 99 octane UK fuel and also the first tune on the new Garrett GT3076R . On the stock actuator with as much preload as possible it peaked at 1.8 bar droppping to just 1.55bar at peak power . This motor and turbo are very very efficent and are working very well from turbo speeds we logged with the Motec.We have a range of new actuators to test to see where we need to be with preload so I fully expect well over 500hp as a target and a real goal most can achieve with simple well planned modifications .

Any questions please ask .
I have a question.
What does it make in standard WHP (not in shootout mode?) ~370whp or so?
I would have expected a bit more out of 99 octane. I'd really like to see 400-420 with race gas and full exhaust on stock cams.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by seven_227
280+ whp on a dyno dynamics!

What other mods does it have?
Theses are flywheel figures . WHP was around 370hp from memory .
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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~370whp or so?
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Originally Posted by evo400
WHP was around 370hp from memory .
Dang, I freaking NAILED that.
Can you tell I have way too much time on a Dyno Dynamics?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
I have a question.
What does it make in standard WHP (not in shootout mode?) ~370whp or so?
I would have expected a bit more out of 99 octane. I'd really like to see 400-420 with race gas and full exhaust on stock cams.

You need to remember we only had the stock actuator on the dyno so a revisit this week will yeild some better torque and hp figures with a higher preload . 500hp is a easy target on pump fuel on this turbo . Race fuel has no relevance in our test program, sure it will give some good numbers tho !! .
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