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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Get yourself an ETS intercooler, but make sure you ask for one with a garrett core.
That's like asking for a MCD's Cheeseburger over a Ruth Chris filet Mignon. Check out the pictures of the Garret core on the first page. After Garret turned their manufacturing to China it has been down hill.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Indeed, go for the ETS core for one of the best cooling and flowing combos out there.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maperformance
That's like asking for a MCD's Cheeseburger over a Ruth Chris filet Mignon. Check out the pictures of the Garret core on the first page. After Garret turned their manufacturing to China it has been down hill.
finally someone is talking some sense. still we need performance sheets
cheers
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by maperformance
That's like asking for a MCD's Cheeseburger over a Ruth Chris filet Mignon. Check out the pictures of the Garret core on the first page. After Garret turned their manufacturing to China it has been down hill.
Good to know!

This industry changes all the time. The ETS intercooler sitting in my garage does not have a garrett core, I guess that's a good thing.

I just thought I got screwed.

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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ETS actual cores FTW, skip that Garrett junk everyone else uses.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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So does anyone know exactly when the quality of the Garrett cores changed? Everyone around me always suggests them and I've seen a lot of high horsepower builds on here with them... I ask because I plan on doing a build like everyone one else someday my self and I want to buy the best part for every occasion and every part of my car. So I guess my question is, is the ETS one of the best out there now? I plan on doing a 2.2l with an hta35r with a goal of 550+whp on pump(dynojet) and 650+whp on race gas(dynojet) if that helps too. I want to make sure the intercooler supports my horsepower goals and can keep the air cool even when it's 100 degrees out with other supporting mods of course.

Aaron

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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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We can build an intercooler for your 500hp+ goal no problem. We run our intercoolers on several 1000hp+ cars. On the FP Red or larger stock frame turbochargers running high boost I would recommend a 3.5" intercooler at the minimum or a 4.0" to deal with the excess heat that will be produced from the turbocharger once it's pulled out of it's efficiency range.

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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Whatever will be as proficient as possible for an hta35r on a 2.2l stroker with any and all supporting mods. My intercooler now is great, but my car feels like such a dog when it's really hot out :-(
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rEVOlution04
Whatever will be as proficient as possible for an hta35r on a 2.2l stroker with any and all supporting mods. My intercooler now is great, but my car feels like such a dog when it's really hot out :-(
Just taking a stab here, but maybe a fix through temperature/load compensation tables?
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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I've got to talk to the tuner...
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Love my ETS 4" core. Fits under the stock IX bumper! No cutting. Black FMIC looks factory.



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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:58 PM
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This was the custom ETS on my IX MR.





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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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I'm looking at two inter-cooler options right now as I need one soon. Either the ETS 4.0" or the AMS inter-cooler. In the ETS website I noticed that it says that the inter-cooler actually had bigger boost spikes and produced more PSI from the turbo. I was told that I don't need to re-tune my car for just a inter-cooler bolt on but wouldn't logically these boost spikes make my car run lean if my tune maps are close?
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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@ love9sick: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, while you won't see the performance gains without a tune, running an upgraded I/C without a tune isn't a huge problem. Our cars have a mass airflow sensor that detects the actual mass of the incoming air and provides fuel accordingly. While the air might be cooler/denser, the mass will remain constant.

My question/comment for Michael/ETS in regards to the staggered fins: Would one of the trade offs of slowing the airflow be that you might limit the total amount of heat that the core can dissipate, especially at the back end of the core? In other words, would an ETS I/C with staggered fins be more likely to suffer from heat soak at slower driving speeds?
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