That sounds like so many of my posts. Good to know that there are still some intelligent people on this forum.

 

"...I bought a IX because to me its the last true Evolution..."

Translation...

I cant afford the X, so i"ll make up a bogus story about how the IX is better.

 

Locally, there are still some new IXs available, and they're almost the same price as the X, and people (including me) *still* aren't sure which to get.

Ordinarily, the answer would be a no-brainer - go for the newest model, stoopid. But the ambiguity surrounding the X's specs, performance and tunability engender a lot of doubts in the minds of enthusiast buyers.

 

evolution is the process of changing something to improve it or for it to adapt to a certain environment or situation. so for me, even the evo XXIII will be a "mitsubishi evolution" just like our VIII"s and IX's wich are improvements from evo I to VII.

 

Interesting that you want to take "evolution" literally. In biological evolution, there is something known as "fitness cost" which is a trade-off the organism makes in acquiring a mutation or genetic determinant that allows it to survive better in an altered environment (niche). A simple example is a bacterium that acquires a drug resistance mutation that also causes it to grow slower than "normal" bacteria (known as "wild type"). In the presence of the antibiotic, the mutant thrives (since wild type bacteria die quickly), but once the status quo is re-established (no more antibiotic), the mutant's weaknesses will show and it simply cannot compete with the wild type.

Long rambling analogy, I know, but the point is this : the "altered environment" is one with increasingly stringent safety and emissions standards, and more rich older-young people who want luxury and are willing to take a trade-off in the form of slightly diminished performance. These older yuppies are also not so much into the modding/tuning scene.

Given that changing environment, the Evolution X has evolved into a safer car with better emissions. The trade-off or "fitness cost" is that it is heavier, more expensive, and may well be slower and less tunable than the old "wild type" car.

*That's* what people are worried about - not the fact that the car is "evolving", but the fitness cost of the evolution which can compromise performance. This IS a performance car, after all.

 

i agree with the op, i could have waited for a x, didnt need another car and price wasnt an issue, i just loved the ix styling and felt that it was truer to the legacy that the evo's led. The ride is harsh, handling is raw, and interior is sparse and thats the way i like it, also the reason i got an s2000 instead of a Z

 

Very intelligent post, couldn't have explained it better.

 

yeah but without the "fitness cost" we don't get a fat slow evo, we get nothing at all. so i'd rather have ANY evo, rather than NO evo. this is what people DON'T seem to understand, or DON'T WANT TO understand.

calling the car "fat" or whatever when ALL cars have steadily gotten "fat" is completely ignorant. saying the car is more "luxurious", when ALL cars have gotten more "luxurious" is completely asinine.

the car is moving with the market in order to exist at all. there's a reason why the older evos weren't a sales success. this one's here to change that notion. this one's the paradigm shift. you guys may not like it, but it's wholly necessary to exist in today's market.

if anything, don't blame mitsu or the evo designers. blame the market. the "market" has "killed" cars like the GTI, M3, GTR, etc. this isn't anything new... so quit complaining...

 

Oh, for the love of god, stop talking about my supposed ignorance when you're ignoring glaring details. Not ALL cars have gotten more luxurious - are the Ariel Atom or even the new Lotus Elise/Exiges symbols of luxury? Or just insanely focused performance machines?

Even the "luxury" performance marques like Ferrari keep coming out with more focused track-ready machinery like the Challenge Stradale versions, which sacrifice creature comforts for real ability. They're more expensive, too, so it's not a cost-saving measure.

The Evo is a performance car, first and foremost, at least it used to be. A rally homologation special that could put supercars to shame. Pity Mitsu seems to have gradually (VII through IX) lost that focus, and now seems to have drastically lost the urge (with the X) to keep performance the number one goal.

 

The title of this thread hsould be titled-



I bought a IX because it was the current model evo that was available at the time ...... or because the X wasn't out yet.......or the VIII was already out of production.

Scorke


Scorke

 

ironically the moron spells "stupid", "stoopid".

You sound like you're 15. Go do your science project.

 

yep. those cars surely represent the entire global auto market. nice post!

stop looking at top gear on youtube and enter reality. mitsu corp sells cars, not fanboi-mobiles. the hardcore evos of yore don't sell. time to change it so that it will sell. they'll still keep that name for recognition/heritage.

seriously. would all the haters be content with the car if it wasn't called evo? ok so if mitsu retired the evo name and they called it the lancer GSX, or lancer ralliart, or something totally different, something other than "evolution"; would that satisfy you all?

fanbois are so out of touch with reality...

PS: anybody who compares the evo with the atom is either stupid or high as a kite...

 

YES...don't badge it an evolution...that way we can retire at the top of our game with our cars...DONE...what you said makes sense in terms of sales and everything...but come one I'd would rather have no eVo than that thing...companies such as Chevy discontined the Camaro and the TA and bring it back every so often...I would be content with that decision...if is still in a finencial slump...

 

It's called humor, stoooooopid (sic).

Are you EvilRob's butt buddy to get all butt hurt like that? Or just the same moron trolling under a different handle? Either way, I'm done with you too, MORON. Go eat some paste.

 

Whatever. It's still a valid counterpoint to your sweeping generalisation.

They don't sell?! *I* would buy one, and I know 90% of the enthusiasts in the local scene who would pick one up in a heartbeat. I'm pretty sure lots of people on this forum would too. Don't speak for others - if you're mellowing out and want luxury at the expense of performance, it doesn't mean everyone else shares the same view.

Hit the nail on the head there. Short answer : yes. The badass Evo name should not be dragged through the mud.

Dumb and uncalled for. I could easily turn this around and say anyone who thinks Mitsu should be compared to a luxury performance marque is stooooooooooopid or as high as the International Space Station.