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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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i'm still amazed the clueless opinion about the new sst tranny.
Nobody even drove it yet ,but some genius already know how its feels...
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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I drove an A3 with DSG on CA's Hwy 1 and had a blast. The DSG made me feel more comfortable With the dsg I could downshift or upshift whenever I wanted - deep into braking, midcorner, etc - without having to worrying about bad footwork disrupting the car's balance. The dsg let me focus more on optimum braking points and the line through the curve. It basically made going flat out down Hwy 1 less of a juggling act than it would have been with a stick. I would say the overall driving experience was somewhat akin to playing a good driving simulation and with a quality gaming wheel.

That said, around town where I was not pushing it the car was not quite as fun. With a manual, I practice my heal-toeing when I pull up to stop signs and the like. I with the DSG there was nothing to really keep you engaged when tooling around.

Not sure what I would do if I were shopping for the X though; I guess I would take a test drive!

well the automatic tranny build just for you and similar type of driving style guys.
So the sst trany will be a good deal for alots of guys like you.
specialy with the new handling goodies.Well some say idiot proof, i would say safe.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Power loss of an Auto comes from the torque converter. This has no such thing, and is in fact MORE effecient than a standard manual = no shift shock, no energy expended to synchro gears. The SST offers everything a true driver wants: more concentration on the road, faster shift times, and it is NOT an automatic tranny. Get away from refering to it as such.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Power loss of an Auto comes from the torque converter. This has no such thing, and is in fact MORE effecient than a standard manual = no shift shock, no energy expended to synchro gears. The SST offers everything a true driver wants: more concentration on the road, faster shift times, and it is NOT an automatic tranny. Get away from refering to it as such.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Go and drive the Outlander with the paddle shift thingys. I dont know if it is the same as SST, but it sucks. Its an auto that gives you the option to downshift. It would upshift at the weirdest times and there was no option to turn off the "automatic" portion of it. It would have been a fun ride if it had been a stick.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ktzdaddy
Go and drive the Outlander with the paddle shift thingys. I dont know if it is the same as SST, but it sucks. Its an auto that gives you the option to downshift. It would upshift at the weirdest times and there was no option to turn off the "automatic" portion of it. It would have been a fun ride if it had been a stick.
I'm pretty sure it's not the same thing. The evo is totally different technology. I doubt they would use the same set-up as they do with an outlander
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Yeah um...outlander....evo....not even close! ha ha...
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ktzdaddy
Go and drive the Outlander with the paddle shift thingys. I dont know if it is the same as SST, but it sucks. Its an auto that gives you the option to downshift. It would upshift at the weirdest times and there was no option to turn off the "automatic" portion of it. It would have been a fun ride if it had been a stick.

Originally Posted by anomatrix
Power loss of an Auto comes from the torque converter. This has no such thing, and is in fact MORE effecient than a standard manual = no shift shock, no energy expended to synchro gears. The SST offers everything a true driver wants: more concentration on the road, faster shift times, and it is NOT an automatic tranny. Get away from refering to it as such.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ktzdaddy
Go and drive the Outlander with the paddle shift thingys. I dont know if it is the same as SST, but it sucks. Its an auto that gives you the option to downshift. It would upshift at the weirdest times and there was no option to turn off the "automatic" portion of it. It would have been a fun ride if it had been a stick.
ok noob, the outlander has a CVT trans !
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4cdndctn
You're right, and there lies the problem. Mitsu is looking to increase market share, not sustain market share. If they lose 1 Evo owner, but gain 2 because their new flagship sportscar appeals to a demographic more likely to spend higher dollars, it's a net win.

From a business standpoint, Mitsubishi is doing the right thing. Don't lose faith, companies in 'survival' mode go back to basics and upon reaching sustainability, will get creative to enter growth.
I agree and disagree. Are they willing to lose an old customer to gain two? Sure. But why not just keep the 5MT as an option on the MR, and now you keep your current customer in addition to gaining the two who want the SST?

It just defies logic.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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I just do not understand people who complain about Mitsu's wonderful new paddle shift trans. Here I am, a Subaru person, pissed that Subaru has not offered a next generation transmission in the new STI, and here you all are, complaining that Mitsubishi has!

The new trans is fantastic, and the right choice for the Evo because it is faster. Ultimately, we are fans of the Evo and STI for their speed, and the new trans gives us more speed. Nothing to complain about.

For those saying that DSG's are "boring", or are "just automatics", are missing the point entirely. How nice is it to have a car you can drive in auto when you want to just cruise, and then drive in semi-auto to race, with no compromise in performance. In fact it is faster! I personally agree with Mitsu's decisions for the Evo.

I just do not get luddites who want a clutch and stick. There is a reason F1, WRC, and pretty much every other top-tier racing league uses paddle shift. It's faster, plain and simple.
Valid point. But here are my personal issues:

1-I don't know what the limitation is for the SST in terms of power and/or tunability. I am afraid of what I do not know.

2-If a manual trans breaks, I know how to fix it. SST? No sir.

3-I don't like the fact that the SST is heavier.

4-There are certain things you can do with a clutch that you can't do without one. For instance, launching from a dead stop.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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My issue is that I didn't want the power loss from an Automatic transmission. That is why I have always chosen a manual. I also liked the challenge of driving a clutch with my artificial left leg. But the SST will definately provide that left leg some relief as I get older.
With SST, you won't have the drivetrain loss of an automatic, because internally, it's a manual.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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No, the SST is no the same as the tranny in the Outlander!!!

If anyone wants to know what the SST will feel like, go visit your local Audi or VW dealer and take out a car that has DSG (Audi calls it Stronic). Mitsu's SST is a direct competitor to DSG.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by adambl03
No, the SST is no the same as the tranny in the Outlander!!!

If anyone wants to know what the SST will feel like, go visit your local Audi or VW dealer and take out a car that has DSG (Audi calls it Stronic). Mitsu's SST is a direct competitor to DSG.
Like the R32...pretty sure that has it....
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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For $245 more, you get 92 HP out of the up coming Lexus GS 460.
What does the much more extra bucks get you in the X, all weight pain and no hp gain.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/20/2...han-last-year/
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