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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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I would offer a 2.0 liters to homologate the car for rally then I would offer a larger displacement engine for the real customers to enjoy it.

The twin exhaust is just a huge waste. The tires are way to big in my opinion and the body is also too big.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kooldino
Bad idea.

The problem is that the VI's styling doesn't appeal to large audiences. The X does. Mitsu needs to push product for a change.
Did you read my entire post? There was a mention of one arguing the need to sell cars etc. The point of this thread is what would YOU do differently.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
The twin exhaust is just a huge waste.
Carlos
I'd revert to single as well...
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gggplaya
Todays vehicles all weigh more due to better crash designs. They have to use reinforced steel in certain areas to allow the impact to transfer to the main body to absorb the shock of an impact. This adds weight, but also makes the body more rigid and usually better handling as well. Some other weight does come from better thicker plusher materials inside as well.

You could take a EVO 6 and crash it against a lesser weight 2008 corolla. The corolla would win hands down as far as cabin intrusion.

If you designed the new EVO X like the older EVO 6, it would get horrific crash test scores compared to todays vehicles and standards.

I added 200 lbs for safety / tranny improvements. We can up it to 400lbs if neccessary. It would still weigh less than the X and have the same HP.

Once again folks, this thread is not about whats wrong with anothers suggestion. Its what YOU would do differently....

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by denolloyd
I added 200 lbs for safety / tranny improvements. We can up it to 400lbs if neccessary. It would still weigh less than the X and have the same HP.

Once again folks, this thread is not about whats wrong with anothers suggestion. Its that YOU would do differently....
I didn't know so many people on these forums had engineering degrees. Why don't you make up some more numbers
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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I didn't know so many people on these forums had engineering degrees. Why don't you make up some more numbers
Jesus Christ...

What is the problem. This a a hypothetical thread about what YOU would want the X to be. Is that so bad? Do you have nothing better to due then to pop into a thread and try to belittle others? I think you should get a hobby, go fly a kite, or play in traffic...

All the best to you grumpy...

And no, I dont have an engineering degree, therefore I will stop posting my ideas...

All Hail Grumpy...
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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If i designed the evo, it would've kept the 4G, had the exterior similar to that of the TME, had 320hp, have a pure CF and aluminium construction (similar to a F1 car), and a few goodies like a: PB start, Navi, HUD, and some lightweight rims W/ advan AO48's on em.......all under 50k.......of course there would be different detuned versions though, because not everyone wants to drive a racecar.....oh yeah, I almost forgot, it would be called the ZMS edition

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Evozster
If i designed the evo, it would've kept the 4G, had the exterior similar to that of the TME, had 320hp, have a pure CF and aluminium construction (similar to a F1 car), and a few goodies like a: PB start, Navi, HUD, and some lightweight rims W/ advan AO48's on em.......all under 50k.......of course there would be different detuned versions though, because not everyone wants to drive a racecar.....oh yeah, I almost forgot, it would be called the ZMS edition
Now that my friend sounds like a Rally vehicle

ZMS?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by denolloyd
Jesus Christ...

What is the problem. This a a hypothetical thread about what YOU would want the X to be. Is that so bad? Do you have nothing better to due then to pop into a thread and try to belittle others? I think you should get a hobby, go fly a kite, or play in traffic...

All the best to you grumpy...

And no, I dont have an engineering degree, therefore I will stop posting my ideas...

All Hail Grumpy...
No, no, sorry if I sounded overly rude. It's just that the way you made your sentence sounded like mitsu has some jackarses working there that it's so easy to make a car light that anyone can do it and keep it under 40k.

The reason I said those things is becasue the title thread reads "If I designed the Evo X" which would mean there is a limit to cost and it's not a "How would you design your dream car" where cost has no limit.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Evozster
If i designed the evo, it would've kept the 4G, had the exterior similar to that of the TME, had 320hp, have a pure CF and aluminium construction (similar to a F1 car), and a few goodies like a: PB start, Navi, HUD, and some lightweight rims W/ advan AO48's on em.......all under 50k.......of course there would be different detuned versions though, because not everyone wants to drive a racecar.....oh yeah, I almost forgot, it would be called the ZMS edition

That would be a killer vehicle.......
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by denolloyd
I'd revert to single as well...
The twin exhausts are for weight balance - front vs aft and left vs right. Reverting to single might aversely affect the balance of the car.

The upcoming STI is really over doing it with quad-pipes. It may be a new tech whereas each cylinder has got its own
exhaust system.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilRob
No, no, sorry if I sounded overly rude. It's just that the way you made your sentence sounded like mitsu has some jackarses working there that it's so easy to make a car light that anyone can do it and keep it under 40k.
I see...

In no way was I implying that Mitsubishi got the Evo X wrong. The production of a new automobile takes years of planning and developing which I am not and do not pretend to be capable of (or interested in). Im sure Mitsubishi could have built a bare bones, no nonsense street rally car for the US, but it would not have sold as well as they need.

The issue is the EVO is no longer a "Super Niche" car like say an ITR. Honda was able to bring the ITR to the states and sell it as a bare bones weekend racer due to the fact they only intended to sell 750 per year (500 in 97).

The Evo is probably expected to sell between 5000 and 7000 yearly (im pulled these nums out of my a@@). That being the case, they do need to market to a broader audience. If they produced the X as an updated VI, it would not sell enough and they would more than likely take a loss. I totally understand that.

None of us here are saying Mitsu got it wrong. The OP knows what he would have wanted for himself and was seeing what others would have liked. Nothing more, nothing less...

Btw, no offense taken. This is the Net.. Cheers
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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If i designed the X I would make it inline with the competition performance wise and better looking in terms of looks... And then I would make sure that the base model starts no higher than $29,000 top end model wil be no higher than $39,000... SSt option or 6 speed manual.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
You missed the point of the original question.........
Not really. Aesthetically speaking, no evo before the X has ever appealed to me personally, even though I loved driving them.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by denolloyd
Did you read my entire post? There was a mention of one arguing the need to sell cars etc. The point of this thread is what would YOU do differently.
Did you read my other post where I pointed out what I would do differently?
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