If I designed the Evo X.........
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If I designed the Evo X.........
It would have had at least 350hp.
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
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I would make it a barebones racecar as what "evo" has been known to stand for. maybe with the new lancer body style but a no-frills mode of transport. if it will be the RS then it is all good.
you can't just say "i would make it 350hp". You think if it were that easy that mitsu would make as much hp as it can, to outdo it's competitors. Fact is, you have to factor in cost, and reliability, as well as meeting government emissions regulations.
Mitsu did make faster models of the evo8/9 in england, called the FQ360 and FQ400. They started around 35,000 pounds back in 2005, which was probably around $50k-$60k in U.S. dollars.
It's easy to write things down on paper, but to design a car that can be driven reliably as an everyday driver, be semi comfortable on a multitude of different roads, have a motor that can be reliably driven in every possible climate, hot, cold, snow, humid, and dry. Then still meet emissions standards, is not easy.
Plus, with the EVO X, i think they are taking the right step to reach a better customer base. Let's face it, most boy racers can't afford the EVO X. So they moved up the maturity of the EVO, to be more refined for everyday driving. Brought down the look to a more subtle sports car. To a slightly older market that can better afford the EVO.
I love the change, because i'm growing with the change. I'm turning 25 when the EVO X comes out. I'm maturing out of the EVO 8. I was thinking about trading my EVO 8 for a BMW 335Xi, but now i'm definitley getting the EVO X.
Mitsu did make faster models of the evo8/9 in england, called the FQ360 and FQ400. They started around 35,000 pounds back in 2005, which was probably around $50k-$60k in U.S. dollars.
It's easy to write things down on paper, but to design a car that can be driven reliably as an everyday driver, be semi comfortable on a multitude of different roads, have a motor that can be reliably driven in every possible climate, hot, cold, snow, humid, and dry. Then still meet emissions standards, is not easy.
Plus, with the EVO X, i think they are taking the right step to reach a better customer base. Let's face it, most boy racers can't afford the EVO X. So they moved up the maturity of the EVO, to be more refined for everyday driving. Brought down the look to a more subtle sports car. To a slightly older market that can better afford the EVO.
I love the change, because i'm growing with the change. I'm turning 25 when the EVO X comes out. I'm maturing out of the EVO 8. I was thinking about trading my EVO 8 for a BMW 335Xi, but now i'm definitley getting the EVO X.
+1 evo10 is alil less hardcore but so wat? MAKE IT hardcore if u want to...
all these lil babies love to whine but if mitsu does make a car of their dreams then they'll ***** cuz its expensive. give a baby a lollipop and he'll want TWO.
all these lil babies love to whine but if mitsu does make a car of their dreams then they'll ***** cuz its expensive. give a baby a lollipop and he'll want TWO.
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My original post was not to Bi_ch.....it was just to discuss changes you would have made if you had a decision in the development of the car.
Understand......mitsu swayed from it's roots with this car (which i'm not saying is a bad thing), but understand there will always be criticizm with change.......
And the cost of the car has NOTHING to do with any of this. If you read the original post.......cost was not mentioned.
Thats uncalled for.
My original post was not to Bi_ch.....it was just to discuss changes you would have made if you had a decision in the development of the car.
Understand......mitsu swayed from it's roots with this car (which i'm not saying is a bad thing), but understand there will always be criticizm with change.......
And the cost of the car has NOTHING to do with any of this. If you read the original post.......cost was not mentioned.
My original post was not to Bi_ch.....it was just to discuss changes you would have made if you had a decision in the development of the car.
Understand......mitsu swayed from it's roots with this car (which i'm not saying is a bad thing), but understand there will always be criticizm with change.......
And the cost of the car has NOTHING to do with any of this. If you read the original post.......cost was not mentioned.
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Cost has everything to do with this. If cost isn't kept low enough, there would be no evo. If you want to design a car to be legendary like the EVO and have a large cult following. It needs to be somewhat affordable to the everyday racer. If you can't do that, then you're not evolving the design of the EVO, you are building something else entirely.
I understand you're point. but i began this thread for people to express ideas......and what they would have wanted.......
I wasn't looking for an actual marketing/planning/budgeting strategy to create the new evo.......
If I designed the Evo X.....
I wouldnt sell it in the U.S.
U.S. Buyers are full of complaints and suggestions, and most won't ever even enter a dealer to buy the car. This board is full of whiney people, I can't imagine working at Mitsu trying to figure out what the U.S. market actually wants...
I still say Mitsu will sell more Evos now with the X, and complain all you want, thats what its all about.
I wouldnt sell it in the U.S.
U.S. Buyers are full of complaints and suggestions, and most won't ever even enter a dealer to buy the car. This board is full of whiney people, I can't imagine working at Mitsu trying to figure out what the U.S. market actually wants...
I still say Mitsu will sell more Evos now with the X, and complain all you want, thats what its all about.
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It would have had at least 350hp.
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
Even the people who compare the new GT-R to Evo X also need to understand that cost/price point is a huge issue. Of course GT-R is a faster car but it would really be a shame if it wasn't considering that you could buy1.5-2 Evos for the price of one GT-R, I say Evo X still seems to offer the best bang for the buck when it comes to speed and agility.
In the minds of Mitsu engineers the X is a step above the previous models. It may not be faster in terms of straightline acceleration but stock for stock on the road course the X is faster and overall the car is more mature which is what Mitsu is going for with the design of the X.
If i designed the X, I would keep it light if not lighter the IX, add more power about 340 hp, totally different dashboard, kept it single exhaust, get rid of the option package and let the customer decide what they want on the car.
If i designed the X, I would keep it light if not lighter the IX, add more power about 340 hp, totally different dashboard, kept it single exhaust, get rid of the option package and let the customer decide what they want on the car.
It would have had at least 350hp.
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
It would have been light and tight just like it's predecessors.......
It would have been the nimble "Involving" drive it used to be..........but improved
It would run 12's stock.......not high 13's..........
This whole situation reminds me of the VW R32. While the new one looks nicer, the last one outperformed it without question.........and IMO....that sucks.
I personally don't think the new Evo X (from what i've read) is much of an evolution in performance as it is in refinement......and from the beginning, the car has been all about performance.
I know this topic has been beaten to death so for the people who have nothing productive to say, please don't say anything.
but for everyone else.........
If you had a say in the "Evolution" of the car we all love, what would have been some of the important things you would have made sure of in this car assuming you had the opportunity to give your input.....?
You also make assumptions like "it would have been nimble..." have you test driven an X yet? Probably not so you are talking out of your ***.
Plus if they made it to your liking only I'm sure that would be the last version of the Evo ever because maybe 10 people would have bought it.
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Last edited by EvilRob; Oct 23, 2007 at 10:20 AM.


