Evo X vs. Evo VIII and IX
I wasn't being defensive until I edited 
There just isn't enough data to draw a logical explanation imo. I honestly don't see how that's even possible when going off all the other data out there. There must be more to the story, but there isn't a story to read.

There just isn't enough data to draw a logical explanation imo. I honestly don't see how that's even possible when going off all the other data out there. There must be more to the story, but there isn't a story to read.
i think the S-AWC is a great display for the technology in the X, to success fully over come, on the disadvantage it gets from the weight - power - shape - size etc.
In the bigger picture , i think it makes it even more valuable. The fact an average Joe can drive the car competitive , let say vs. the 370Z.
Which is a big deal if you think about it.
The S-AWC benefits will be even more vivid when you actually start shaving weight and gain WHP.
The S-AWC will not drive the car for you , but certainly will help. The true driver car is in my definition:
when you dont have to fight with the car, you can smoothly work with it.


In the bigger picture , i think it makes it even more valuable. The fact an average Joe can drive the car competitive , let say vs. the 370Z.
Which is a big deal if you think about it.
The S-AWC benefits will be even more vivid when you actually start shaving weight and gain WHP.
The S-AWC will not drive the car for you , but certainly will help. The true driver car is in my definition:
when you dont have to fight with the car, you can smoothly work with it.


I definitely agree about the average driver thing, yea. Car's not driving for you, but it's def getting closer I'd say. Like I said, I think Mitsu is on it's way to developing a "perfect" full performance traction control system
Again, there is no way to determine an answer to your question without more data and story. In the end I don't see how it's possible myself (speaking as a true racer). The STi is disadvantaged in every single area besides weight and power, but that usually doesn't make up a race... corners do.
don't be so defensive. this is not a shootout - i'm comparing the times here. the sti, known for being an understeering so and so on the track, manages to average times very close to the Evo X (in all tests), despite its superior chassis, sayc/sawc, grippier tires? Interesting
Again, there is no way to determine an answer to your question without more data and story. In the end I don't see how it's possible myself (speaking as a true racer). The STi is disadvantaged in every single area besides weight and power, but that usually doesn't make up a race... corners do.
Who knows? They're clearly well matched cars in terms of performance. I don't think there is much more you can draw out of this discussion.
The JDM X's not that heavy, you know that =]
I definitely agree about the average driver thing, yea. Car's not driving for you, but it's def getting closer I'd say. Like I said, I think Mitsu is on it's way to developing a "perfect" full performance traction control system
I definitely agree about the average driver thing, yea. Car's not driving for you, but it's def getting closer I'd say. Like I said, I think Mitsu is on it's way to developing a "perfect" full performance traction control system

Mainly because as i stated before the lack of US spec crash beam and the almost empty trunk. Like no spear tires or tools. that is alone almost 100 LB
It'll even blow you mind more after you have it tuned. The car really shines once you get that pig-rich factory tune fixed.
Id like to drive one but there are 0 FS near me. I have read alot of reviews and they all seem great. For around $25k I dont think I can get a better car. I am hoping to go to a dealership and drive the 1 2010 Evo X I found but I dont think they are going to let me.







