i kinda regret buying the x now that i think about it. I love the x dont get me wrong but the nine(IMO) looks more aggressive to me. The plus about the X is the interior upgrade, super all wheel, better safety rating but other than that i dont see an advantage. Man i wish i was local i would trade you my x in a heartbreak TB MR IX with 4k miles on it thats too good to be tru. Definitely keep the nine you arent missing anything by not upgrading imo.

 

I really dont give a crap about going fast in a straight line, and around a track the x is much easier to drive. Ive driven 8's and 9's and the x handles much better around a track. I dont understand what people mean about the x not being raw enough. stock for stock the x will rape the 8 and 9 around a circuit.

 

this has already been proven untrue (see the 8/9 vs x thread). don't take this thread there, it'll just get closed/merged.
also, please don't use the term raped.

it's certainly true that the x is easier to drive though. you basically hit the throttle after the apex, s-awc and s-ayc do the rest for you

op, i think if you hold onto your car it will be worth some good money down the road, no joke

 

np -

here are the links

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...available.html

http://www.teamrip.com/EVOLUTION%20R...20SERVICE.html

 

OP, you gotta tell us more about what is important to you. Then we can honestly tell you if moving from a IX to a X is the right move for you.

I had a IX SSL and now have a fully-loaded X GSR. It was the right move for me. But, until we know what you like/dislike and really want in a car we can't really tell you if it will be the right move for you.

Also, there is a HUGE thread stickied at the top of this section about the VIII/IX vs. X. Check it out.

 

I'm someone who has had a bazillion cars in the last couple years:
sti, c5 z06, s2000, FJ Cruiser (still have), and one Evo IX MR SE...

I've found that reading opinions on cars always lead me to buying the next or not liking my current vehicle.

That said:

The end of my fickle road ended with a 2008 X GSR. I started tracking it (shenandoah circuit @ summit point) and I'm in love...I LOVE the way the X handles. The engine is extremely reliable (thanks gates311) and capable of more power than most of us are able to properly use trackside. I also really like the way the X looks; it's a more mature appeal IMO...Ironically, I think the fit n' finish on the IX is better.

In conclusion, I would recommend getting some seat time in the IX; it's an awesome vehicle (look at the sierra sierra evo!). Moreover, the entire line of Evos are awesome! The IX may be faster than the X. The X may be faster than the IX. There probably isn't a single person in this thread that could consistently define the difference behind the wheel. Don't read another thread on this topic. Go out to your garage, get in the car, and drive.

Keep the IX and love it.

 

You've said this before a few times.

An upgraded rear diff will improve performance in any Evo. And while you can improve the control and distribution of the ACD, you can never make it feel or behave like SAYC. Yaw moves the rear left and right. ACD can only move front to back. You can flash and program the ACD in the X as well as upgrade its rear differential. But no upgraded rear diff or center diff reprogram will make the car rotate on demand the same way as SAYC. No matter how people paint it, the US Evo VIIIs and IXs got royally screwed because our SAYC was omitted.

The consensus is that if you upgrade the car substantially, you wouldn't want SAYC anyway, so who cares.

But on fully stock suspensions and stock tires, and when power:weight is made equal, an X will smash an IX. The only reason the IX is slightly faster stock is it has measurably better power:weight.

In short, this ACD flash cannot make the car defy physics.

All that said, I'd still rather have my IX back, even without SAYC. It'd be paid off now, and its a little more robust IMO.

PS: Kyooch, I am not trying to belittle what you say, and I am sure the upgrades are very good. More lock is always good. But it will feel and behave a little differently. There are some guys who hate ACD in all the 05+ cars due to its electronic nature, and swear by the 03-04 viscous cars. Seems crazy to me, I like the newer technology.

 

well the evolution is always gets better. its a same in the 10 past years ... why would change it now? because the older model owners said it?

It was and still a same old moaning.. when the Evo 3 did go to the 4, or when a 6 did go to the 7, and now when the 9 go to the 10
What really changed end of the day?
Plane and simple: the car got faster...

Only argument is stays , the car gets less raw, in every model changes. Childish.

if you want to drive raw then i dont even know why you actually buy an any car?
Get a go-kart and call it a day /dont get the Automatic though /

for me; this "less raw and less driver car" is a biggest BS argument i ever heard. And some reason is only here in the US

Its not a car, its a driver. That is what you have to remember.

here is a "not a driver car" in action


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZtrUFQUp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X2gG...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxhK...eature=related

when you can pull something like this off, after that please come forward and say it loudly , its easy to drive and so on. Until please keep it low. Only because the car knows more then you are probably

No offense though , just food for thought for the haters.

 

Great post and 100% right. Cars always get less raw with every revision, been that way since the dawn of of the automobile. You can always buy or build one of these if you want raw...

 

yeah Tommy Makkinen likes it raw too, he said enough of the Evo gadgets and helps !
im going back to the roots ...
here is the proof

 

yeah of course -

acd and sayc are two different functions - sayc corresponds to the rear diff, which is torque vectoring between the left and right wheels.
a mechanical rear diff works about 95% as good as sayc with the added benefits of consistency and lighter weight.

i agree if you take fully stock suspensions and wheels/tires and give them both equal straight line performance, the x would win.. that's basically just giving like 60whp or w/e to the x and leaving the ix stock, and then saying race again.

the ix stock suspension is not that great, there are a lot of things to be fixed, while the x has an all new suspension, wider track, wider wheels/tires, stickier tires, etc...

shrug, anyway i was worried this thread was going to get merged. if OP is still there, i'd suggest looking into those mods - if you garage queen it anyway, just wait until the ix is paid off and then get like a xii or whatever, is what I would do

evolution is not necessarily a forward progression.. in this case, it was a branch off into a different direction. i don't think we need to really read into the car's name so much. they're just going the direction the market dictates..

if the X was developed into a car more like the evo VI... lighter, shorter wheelbase, more "raw"... that, to me, would have a true "evolution" from the IX

also, i don't see how the argument about a car being less raw or less of a driver's car is childish.. what part of it? because owner's cant drive the car to its limits anyway?
that doesn't mean they can't enjoy the car for what it is and how it drives? and it doesn't mean they can't express discontent when a new model clearly diverges from that path, for better or worse..
look at what the past few pages of owners who have converted to X's have said.. you can't call them children for enjoying the old brutality of the ct9a cars.

none of them were even talking about whether the old car or new car is faster until pcasso did.. they're talking about their personal experience driving their cars

 

as a start to thinking your way...
FYI
The Evo 6 is heavier and way less "raw" then a Evo 3...

And i can go on. Juts a bunch of rent , sorry. Why you dont just once, compere the good stuff in the X vs the VII? There is a ton. So far the argument is about how bad a X is : the weight and the BS about its not as raw.
Thinkig about it , that is an awesome achivment from a brand new model line . Dont you agree, if thats all what the internet rebels can come up with?
When a VII came out or the IV the argument was a page long

 

I'll never understand how the X, especially the GSR, is not considered "raw" by any measure. Much like my VIII did, it still has a terrible interior, rides rough, has uncomfortable performance seats, and has little to no amenities other than a basic stereo and A/C. The only difference is that my VIII had HIDs and a sunroof.

 

it's not a question of better or worse, as I said. It's q question of preference.. Would I rather have a 7 or a X? a 7. Which would you rather have? Maybe a X..

Why would I choose a 7? Not because it's lighter, quicker or not, or whatever.. because I like how that car's generation drives and feels, simple as that. And, so do many people who have switched from a X, apparently. I referenced the rear diff and acd to improve the feel of the car further if they're looking for more of that diff magic
Other people like the X more, for whatever reason..

Like I said, this thread was never a question of speed..

 

what you like to feel, or what you prefer to see, it matters in bed or car shows...

Thats not for the evolution made for. Its a totally different point of view.
And the evo never was made neither designed for that.