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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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I gratiously accept your ***** slap

I'm glad you responded because I was under the assumption that when the ASC was disabled that consequently so was the AYC. Obviously not the case. I'm new to the evo's altogether and new to performance tuning. Looking into it a little further, it sounds like the potential for the ASC to turn off is high without any mods in varying driving conditions. They even make note of this to some degree in the manual.

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Sorry to add to the confusion but it cleared things up for me
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboGard
I'm glad you responded because I was under the assumption that when the ASC was disabled that consequently so was the AYC. Obviously not the case. I'm new to the evo's altogether and new to performance tuning. Looking into it a little further, it sounds like the potential for the ASC to turn off is high without any mods in varying driving conditions. They even make note of this to some degree in the manual.

Thanks,

Sorry to add to the confusion but it cleared things up for me
You were still correct on this statement:

It's a big deal to me. I'm not going to forfeit 10k worth of stability controls I paid for to impress my friends at the drag strip. I'm holding off purchasing for just that reason.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Well correct up to the point where I said, "I'm holding off purchasing for just that reason." I was under the impression that I was loosing both ASC and AYC which is incorrect. It's still a problem, but not enough of one for me to delay my purchase anymore. I would hope that eventually someone will address the issue.


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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboGard
I'm glad you responded because I was under the assumption that when the ASC was disabled that consequently so was the AYC. Obviously not the case. I'm new to the evo's altogether and new to performance tuning. Looking into it a little further, it sounds like the potential for the ASC to turn off is high without any mods in varying driving conditions. They even make note of this to some degree in the manual.

Thanks,

Sorry to add to the confusion but it cleared things up for me
We all are constantly learning, so glad to help. If I was a bit abrasive, I appologize; I can be a little blunt sometimes. Either way, welcome to the forums and to the evo community. There is a wealth of knowledge here if you know where to look. Let me know if you ever need help with a question about your X; I will always help if I can.

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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I was more asking for the STi and the Evo 9 as the only way to "disconnect AWD" is to disconnect the drive shaft, and even then the center diff is going to spit out metal stuff on the dyno.
I meant the electrical connection. I meant disable it so it doesn't jump the dyno.
That is what I was told by the tuner of my last Evo and Sti.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NateDaJew
I meant the electrical connection. I meant disable it so it doesn't jump the dyno.
That is what I was told by the tuner of my last Evo and Sti.
The main reason they do this is that the front and rear rollers are independent on a Dynojet and are NOT locked together like a Mustang Dyno so they spin at the same speed safely.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
So go take your Evo X to the dragstrip and leave the awesome traction control on and we'll look for your thread in the drag racing section with your 18.3 E.T. timeslips at 94mph.

I mean after all, Road and Track and Car & Driver are all parts of a multimillion dollar media company and they test all of these cars in the quarter mile, correct?

Why are they disabling traction control? Certainly since the manufacturer put it there for the buyer to take advantage of the "$10,000" in drivetrain technology, why would anyone less than Tommi Makinnen ever not want traction control?
If you read a post prior to that one, i agree with you. At the track you might as well turn it off if you want. But everyday daily driving there's no need, a waste of 3 seconds and you never know when you might need the uber computer to compensate for god knows what. Cause all the system try to do is keep the car in a straight line and fix your mistakes.

And Zeitronix, i know from what i read there are people that can stop the car better than the ABS system. But in a panic situation that the driver might not be in the sharpest state of mind im sure the abs would help alot. I been in one situation that if i had ABS i wouldn't have hit another vehicle( old Nissan Pulsar). But then again i was young, i just push the pedal till there was no more floorboard.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
What shop was this and what type of dyno?
+1 I'm curious to know this too. I just read recently of 996TTs having to disconnect their driveshafts in order to run on Dyno Dynamics dyno.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/c...15-08-a-2.html
(mentioned in Post #28)
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The main reason they do this is that the front and rear rollers are independent on a Dynojet and are NOT locked together like a Mustang Dyno so they spin at the same speed safely.
Cool thanks for clearing that up.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigmikeOC
There are quite a few people with Ecutek tunes here on the forums. It would be great to hear if any of them has had the ASC light issue.
It's a non issue if you understand the tables in the rom and know how to adjust them. It's just a check done by the ecu that causes the Service ASC light. There is no universal "fix" as it depends on what load a particular car is hitting in a particular rpm and tps point.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gunzo
There is a Torque / Airflow map on the stock ECU ..

I've already said .. there is alot of communications going on with the engine ECU and the rest of the accessories .. the SES light is probably due to signal mismatch ..

If you wonder why I know .. search for my posts on disassembling the X ECU .. and NO I am not guessing

Also ASC /ABS is part of SAWC ..you remove ASC totally .. you actually revert back to older gen evo SAYC / ACD combo ..

Weather is turning cold .. you guys are going to get alot of this airflow mismatch crap soon especially the MBC owners
Please listen to this guys folks, as aside from us ecutek tuners he is one of the few (razorlab is the other that comes to mind) people that have seen most of the tables in the X rom and actually know what they are for.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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I have yet to get a ASC light come on no matter how im driving, guess i got lucky
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Maybe it's burnt out?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
I have yet to get a ASC light come on no matter how im driving, guess i got lucky
Yes you are you lucky bastard!! Mine has yet to come back on though so i'm starting to feel like part of the gang!
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
It's a non issue if you understand the tables in the rom and know how to adjust them. It's just a check done by the ecu that causes the Service ASC light. There is no universal "fix" as it depends on what load a particular car is hitting in a particular rpm and tps point.
Interesting. So you know how to avoid it? What kind of checks in the ecu does the ASC make and why does it get freaked out if certain tables are not adjusted? What are these tables, if you don't mind sharing some of your trade secrets? Thanks. Oh BTW, I was about to come up there and get a tune a week or two ago, but the AD Valorum tax bill (license tag) came in at a bad time. I love getting surprise 315 dollar bills. I'll call you guys soon though.
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