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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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He was pushing the limits of the boost system i believe.... spiking at 26psi i think..
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rguy
He was pushing the limits of the boost system i believe.... spiking at 26psi i think..
Well, that just proves it's not Z-chip related, but rather boost related.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Good to hear it wasnt the z-chip.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Well, that just proves it's not Z-chip related, but rather boost related.

But people are getting the light on Z-Chipped cars at high RPM where boost is around 18-20psi. So it would not be over boost related.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
ASC LIGHT ON ECUTEK VERIFIED:



http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...?t=9230&page=3



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If link doesn't work try evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9230&page=3
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i overboosted this weekend causing my ASC light to stay on. ive overboosted many many many times, and never had it happen, just a check engine light. im using ecutek, so i dont think its related to anything other than boost.
Same username is a member of evom as well under the same screen name.

I am surprised pride was put aside for the better knowledge good of the forum. Thanks for the info.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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So basically the ASC light is from the car overboosting while on Ecutek.. However cars running 24psi on the Zchip are getting the ASC light so it might not be related only to boost..
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Okay so I just watched the Dynoflash video of the Buschur BR-350 evo X MR (granted is was the MR) do the dyno runs and I can see that they have the ASC off already in the first run, but during the run up I see the ASC traction light come on as well and the "service required" light come on as well (pay attention, it's at exactly 2:00 while down shifting) , and you can clearly hear Al's voice say that "I love my ECUtek". Does this not also prove that the light comes on in a couple cars now?! oh btw, it happend on both runs they did in the video and i'm pretty sure they're not boosting 26 psi.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chriso3030
Okay so I just watched the Dynoflash video of the Buschur BR-350 evo X MR (granted is was the MR) do the dyno runs and I can see that they have the ASC of already, but during the run up I see the ASC traction light come on as well annnnnnd the "service required light come on as well (pay attention, it's at exactly 2:00 while down shifting) , and you can clearly hear Al's voice say that "I love my ECUtek". Does this not also prove that the light comes on in a couple cars now?! oh btw, it happend on both runs they did in the video.
Al dyno's the car with the ASC disabled, thats why the light is on.. We have also figured out that service required light is coming on when you are less than a 1/4 tank of gas and under hard acceleration.. The pump pickup in the X is much worse than the 8 and 9.. We are developing a surge tank system to resolve the issue..
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chriso3030
Okay so I just watched the Dynoflash video of the Buschur BR-350 evo X MR (granted is was the MR) do the dyno runs and I can see that they have the ASC off already in the first run, but during the run up I see the ASC traction light come on as well and the "service required" light come on as well (pay attention, it's at exactly 2:00 while down shifting) , and you can clearly hear Al's voice say that "I love my ECUtek". Does this not also prove that the light comes on in a couple cars now?! oh btw, it happend on both runs they did in the video and i'm pretty sure they're not boosting 26 psi.
Yes it is our professional opinion that it is NOT related to boost. Boost has little to do with traction, however torque does.

Yes Chris we noticed too that the ASC light was on most of the time in the EcuTeK video.

It seems it is just one of the side affect of increasing the performance of the vehicle. ZChip owners just don't try to hide this fact as ecutek customers do.

Its very silly if you ask us.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Yes it is our professional opinion that it is NOT related to boost. Boost has little to do with traction, however torque does.

Yes Chris we noticed too that the ASC light was on most of the time in the EcuTeK video.

It seems it is just one of the side affect of increasing the performance of the vehicle. ZChip owners just don't try to hide this fact as ecutek customers do.

Its very silly if you ask us.
Anytime Chris wants to come drive my 345whp Ecutek car he is welcome to try to get the light to come on.. I beat the **** out of it all day sunday as i barely drive my X and i dont get any lights on my car.. Sideways, thru sprinklers, dead stop and no lights.. nothing to hide, it just doesnt happen.. As i said AL disables the ASC when he is tuning the car.. I know this because it did the same on my car and the MR..

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Al dyno's the car with the ASC disabled, thats why the light is on.. We have also figured out that service required light is coming on when you are less than a 1/4 tank of gas and under hard acceleration.. The pump pickup in the X is much worse than the 8 and 9.. We are developing a surge tank system to resolve the issue..
Okay good, smart of him to do that.....in the first run up, but on the second he DOES NOT have the ASC off and he does get the full ASC "service required" light again along with some other warning that looks pretty distinct to the MR. You're right though, he does have only about a quarter tank of gas. Now maybe it sounds like i'm trying to make the z-chip sound better by discrediting reflashes, but I am definitely not, I'd just like to point out that it's not only the z-chip owners in need of some "ASC light" fixing. It sounds like everyone has some light issues to deal with including those with just mods.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Chris3030 does not get the ASC light with 322whp as tested as on your dyno once he removed the aftermarket exhaust.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Anytime Chris wants to come drive my 345whp Ecutek car he is welcome to try to get the light to come on.. I beat the **** out of it all day sunday as i barely drive my X and i dont get any lights on my car.. Sideways, thru sprinklers, dead stop and no lights.. nothing to hide, it just doesnt happen.. As i said AL disables the ASC when he is tuning the car.. I know this because it did the same on my car and the MR..

Mike
Maybe not yours Mike, but I will definitley take that offer up on that MR you've been working on. That car is B.A. (bad *** for those who don't know)!!!
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chriso3030
Maybe not yours Mike, but I will definitley take that offer up on that MR you've been working on. That car is B.A. (bad *** for those who don't know)!!!
Thanks, Yeah that car is no joke.. 25k invested and its not even 1/2 way done.. LOL The owner took 1st place Sunday in Sebring against Porsche Gt3's.. When its near the final phase of building well go for a ride.. Expect to see it in Every Major Magazine..

Mike
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Hmm, so if this is happening to both ecutek tuned Xs and Z chipped Xs alike, lets try to find both the cause and a solution because it'll benefit all of us. Some think it's boost spikes, but there have been cases where it's come on when boost wasn't spiking at all. One person reported that he had to have the TC replaced because the shaft seal failed and leaked out fluid.

I'm guessing that that was a fluke because everyone else who has gotten the light hasn't really had any issues other than the annoying light. If it's just a software glitch or malfunction,it would be nice if mitsu could come up with a fix for this. Doubtful though, considering that it's not an issue on stock Xs. So if it doesn't happen on stock Xs, and it happens on tuned or chipped Xs, then it must have something to do with the raised power levels and the way that ASC opperates.

Perhaps the ASC computer is just being overwhelmed because of the level of torque being sent to the wheels. Maybe ecutek can find a way to reflash the ASC computer to fix this. This is something that would benefit all of us and hell, even the Z chip guys would probably buy it. Any ecutek dealers want to contact Ecutek and tell them about the problem and see if they can help develop a fix for it?

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