He makes valid points though. And its not that the sti is not fun to drive. Just not as fun as the evolution. The Subaru has more useable space, more supple interior, softer drive. I still wouldn't take one over my evo though.

 

Evo X FTW. I can't stand those Subaru guys and their smug-ness.

 

Honestly, I don't hate on the STi, it's just their forums..

 

The car to me is just a machine, but it's really the people that drive them which completes the picture for me and a lot of those smug mother f*ckers need to learn something or chill out.

 

i think i love the 135

 

+1

 

yey! time to go lap around the parking lot!

 

I'm a Subaru guy, and for you to lump everyone in the same boat exudes a taint of smug bigotry yourself. I love the new EVO, but I've also loved every single one of the 10! Subaru's I've owned and sunk countless $$ into.

These comparos aren't really saying anything new. A heavier underpowered car is faster around a track. We get it. One understeers like a pig, the other doesn't, STOCK. But once the tuning begins, it all goes out the window. These cars are made to MODIFY...and race. In most cases, either platform is better than the driver behind the wheel.

 

Well, awhile ago when I spent a lot of my time surfing the Subaru forums, I saw a lot of posts regarding our falling pedals when it came to comparing our cars (which was an isolated issue), but a lot of members lumped all X's into the "pedals falling off" boat. Not sure if it's just me, but I only heard about this problem from two people. And that's it.

In general, on Subaru forums, when someone asks "Evo or Sti?" everyone says "get the Evo if you like unreliable cars that have pedals fall off!"

I don't see that much here...Evo members tend to, "test drive both, get what YOU like more."

Well anyway, I'm not being biased, I love both CARS equally and can't wait 'til I have an STi in my driveway, but it's more than obvious the STi owners have some insecurity issues.

 

Sometimes, I wish it weren't true that Subaru guys have such smug-ness. It really does present itself at local meets and on public roads. It's really not the car that turns me off it's the people. I'm not saying Evo guys are much better, I'm just stating my personal experiences.

 

You have met the wrong Subaru owners then. The ones I know are very cool and love their cars. Unfortunately, the IWSTI forum just doesn't represent itself as well as it should.

Evo owners are also incredibly smug.

 

Subaru guys are as neutral as the Swiss compared to BMW "enthusiast". Now that's a group of people that has turned me off to an entire brand.

 

Edmunds did a comparison of different cars and offered their assessment. I'm still not convinced the MR is better than the GSR in such competitions. This still shows the Evo X dominance over most cars not costing twice as much.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=126453#1

 

Not sure if we're talking about the ones we've "met."

I met a few, and one is my best buddy, and once you get to know them they're great people, what can I say!

And I can't seem to recall any time we've been "incredibly smug." :\

Story time:
I was at a gas station one time and the new STi pulls up to the pump next to me.

I'm all interested (and I must say, the car looks MUCH MUCH better in person!), and I ask him if I can just take a peek inside, and he just sort of rolls his eyes and gives me this look like "...right.."

He didn't really say anything. The only thing he said was "yeah" when I asked, "wait...aren't you the computer guy at my school?"

But anyway, I'm not using him to reflect STi owners as a whole, one person is too little to judge masses...just a little story.



[Anyone who asks me questions and if I have the time, I let them have a seat inside!]

 

Nice. What caught my eyes thou is how close the times r bet. both drivers for the subie. That made it seems as if it was easier to drive around a track, to the point were a novice driver can keep up.
I just hate the look.